The lawsuit alleges OpenAI crawled the web to amass huge amounts of data without people’s permission.

  • @SamB
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    302 years ago

    I doubt it’s only about some Reddit posts. The scrapping was done on the whole web, capturing everything it could. So besides stealing data and presenting it as its own, it seems to have collected some even more problematic data which wasn’t properly protected.

    • @zekiz
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      232 years ago

      But that really isn’t OpenAI’s fault. Whoever was in charge of securing the patients data really fucked up.

      • krellor
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        242 years ago

        Leaving your front door open isn’t prudent but doesn’t grant permission to others to enter and take/copy your belongings or data.

        The security teams may have royally screwed up, but OpenAI has a legal obligation to respect copyright and laws regarding data ownership.

        Likewise, they could have scraped pages that included terms of use, copyright, disclaimers, etc., and failed to honor them.

        All parties can be in the wrong for different reasons.

      • @almar_quigley
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        142 years ago

        That’s like saying you didn’t lock your front door so whoever robs you is innocent.

        • @[email protected]
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          62 years ago

          I think it’s a little closer to being mad that the Google street car drove by and snapped a picture of the front of your house, tbh.

          • @almar_quigley
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            12 years ago

            Except pii and spi are protected under law, just like your possessions.

        • Dran
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          62 years ago

          But does leaving your front door open allow one to legally take a picture of the inside from across the street? I’d say scraping is more akin to that than it is theft. Nothing is removed in scraping, just copied

          • @BradleyUffner
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            22 years ago

            Bad analogy. This is like leaving your couch out on the sidewalk, then complaining when someone takes a picture of it.

        • @zekiz
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          52 years ago

          It’s more like leaving an important letter in the open for everyone to read. It’s certainly your fault for leaving it that open.

        • @MercuryUprising
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          22 years ago

          Yeah, but what were all these people whose data was scraped wearing?

      • Apathy Tree
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        72 years ago

        It’s certainly their fault that they used it, though.

        If they cared, they could have ensured they weren’t using sensitive or otherwise highly problematic information, but they chose not to. That’s on them.

        • @MercuryUprising
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          -32 years ago

          It’s called “disrupting” the established norms. You wouldn’t get it because you’re not on the bleeding edge of a revolutionary platform that’s seeing scalable vertical growth due to its paradigm shift.

      • jdp23
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        12 years ago

        They certainly fucked up, but it might well be OpenAI’s post too.

    • @tallwookie
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      82 years ago

      if it was unsecured it’s basically public. whomever put that data on a publicly accessible server is at fault

      • @[email protected]
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        2 years ago

        That’s not necessarily true. Even if a company makes the mistake of not securing data correctly, those that make use of this data can still be at fault.

        If a company leaves a server wide open, you still can’t legally steal information from it.

        • @tallwookie
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          12 years ago

          that’s kind of a grey area - digitally copying something that’s public domain isnt stealing.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 years ago

          undefined> If a company leaves a server wide open, you still can’t legally steal information from it.

          I don’t see how this is any different than if Google search included text from a page that shouldn’t be public.