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  • @skydivekingair
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    669 months ago

    My opinion: these hosts have to be so polarized on every opinion that they have to choose a side. Star Trek or Star Wars, she claims to not endorse Star Wars since it’s too “buzzword” and now has to identify as the opposite, despite having no knowledge or affection for the Star Trek franchise. I don’t know if it’s just the screenshot where she’s doing the hand signal backwards, but that’s about the most basic layman Star Trek cultural identifier out there. So of course she doesn’t know they have had non and third gendered species since TOS & Enterprise, along with a myriad of other issues addressed that she would get fired from that channel if she even reported on them as options.

    • Flying Squid
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      649 months ago

      TOS had the first interracial kiss between a white person and a black person on U.S. TV. It also shows a socialist utopia where men and women of all races are equal, indigenous cultures are respected, and they try to talk out a hostile situation before they resort to firing their weapons whenever they can.

      Fox News should absolutely loathe that.

      • Hyperreality
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        609 months ago

        TNG basically had Riker fuck an alien trans woman in 1992.

        Any trekkie who complains about Trek being too woke, is either a moron, or not an actual fan.

        • teft
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          9 months ago

          DS9 had Jadzia kiss another trill whose host happened to be a woman. TOS had the first televised interracial kiss. ENT had a pregnant Trip Tucker. Trek has always been woke.

          • Flying Squid
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            209 months ago

            And, of course, Discovery has Stamets and Culber, plus their adopted nonbinary child.

            I’m pretty sure Mariner’s up for anything.

            • teft
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              9 months ago

              Mariner is definitely down for anything. She’s dating the andorian Jennifer in a few episodes and she also went on a date with Steve Levy the conspiracy guy. She also dated an Anabaj to annoy her mom so…yeah.

              She even says this in one episode (the Tom Paris one):

              “Oh I’m always dating bad boys, bad girls, bad gender non-binary babes, ruthless alien masterminds, and bad Bynars.”

              • FaceDeer
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                59 months ago

                I like that she had to classify Bynars separately from non-binary people.

                • teft
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                  39 months ago

                  She wants to be a throuple. No judgement here.

                  • Tar_Alcaran
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                    19 months ago

                    She wants to be a throuple.

                    Is it though? They’re Bynars so it’s linguistically complex

              • CCL
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                29 months ago

                Steve Levy the conspiracy guy

                now I’m even more mad my wife won’t let me watch discovery

          • @TheGrandNagus
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            19 months ago

            First televised interracial kiss in the US. I believe there was a televised interracial kiss on UK TV a decade earlier.

        • Flying Squid
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          259 months ago

          I will be forever disappointed that the higher-ups refused to have that alien played by a male actor. I am glad if it helps trans people feel noticed and respected though.

          • Hyperreality
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            119 months ago

            Seem to remember Frakes being dissapointed with that too. Wanted a male actor.

            • Flying Squid
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              69 months ago

              Yes, he’s talked about that before.

      • @[email protected]
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        69 months ago

        The neat thing about post scarcity societies is that economic systems become moot so long as the government isn’t particularly oppressive. It’s still an hierarchical, and somewhat militaristic, society.

        It also followed the old scifi serial blueprint they were used to.

      • @skydivekingair
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        -29 months ago

        Yeah I thought about the Kirk-Uhura kiss but two things, they aren’t currently openly saying that shouldn’t be allowed (on Fox News) and considering she was a Yeoman or a Lieutenant at the time being kissed by her Captain is right along the “grab em by the pussy” narrative they side with.

        You are right if they looked at any of the social establishments that the franchise embraces they would hate it.

        • Flying Squid
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          129 months ago

          and considering she was a Yeoman or a Lieutenant at the time being kissed by her Captain is right along the “grab em by the pussy” narrative they side with.

          They were being forced to kiss by telepathic aliens. They both even admit they have had feelings for each other in the past but it was inappropriate to act on them. I don’t think that applies.

          • @skydivekingair
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            79 months ago

            You know what I had forgotten those details. Good recall!

            • Flying Squid
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              39 months ago

              I’ve watched a lot of TOS in my life.

      • @chiliedogg
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        229 months ago

        Has a gay kiss

        Yeah. Good thing they haven’t had that going on for decades, and definitely didn’t have an episode centered on a lesbian love affair 29 years ago.

        • Tar_Alcaran
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          39 months ago

          29 years ago.

          No they didn’t. That was at MOST 12 years, I’m sure.

    • @[email protected]
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      159 months ago

      She should have picked Battlestar Galactica, given that it’s backdoor Mormon fan fiction.

      • @Landmammals
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        189 months ago

        You had me at backdoor Mormons

          • @[email protected]
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            49 months ago

            Haven’t watched that masterpiece in a while. Completely forgot about the roller skates.

            • Flying Squid
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              49 months ago

              I never got around to their TV show, but the short one was fun on Scrubs as Ted’s girlfriend and I love that song.

              • @[email protected]
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                29 months ago

                The show was entertaining for what it was. Mild recommend if you enjoy their music/humor.

        • @Thteven
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          59 months ago

          Is that the sequel to Debbie does Salt Lake City?

      • Flying Squid
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        59 months ago

        I wonder if the Nauvoo in The Expanse is sort of ‘revenge’ for Battlestar Galactica?

        • @FordBeeblebrox
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          49 months ago

          Fred Johnson just booting them all off the ship and blatantly stealing it is one of my favorite parts of the show.