My mother’s upgrading from a Huawei P9 to an iPhone she received as a gift (don’t know which model it is).

She doesn’t know how to use iOS and I’m finding it difficult to teach her, since I don’t know how it works either, so I was wondering if it was possible to install some version of Android on it.

Sorry if it’s the wrong community to post this in

  • CicraftOP
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    -311 months ago

    I feel like selling gifts might look bad lol

    • @woelkchen
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      2411 months ago

      I feel like selling gifts might look bad lol

      So are bad presents. Just don’t rub it under the nose of the other person and when they ask just say “I’m sorry, my mom really tried but couldn’t adapt to iOS.”

    • subignition
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      1711 months ago

      Is not looking bad more valuable than the effort involved in one or both of you learning iOS?

      • stevedidWHAT
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        -611 months ago

        You can’t seriously argue iOS is harder to learn over the myriad of android oses and their frequent updates

        • subignition
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          611 months ago

          I’m not arguing that? I’m acknowledging that learning any new software takes some level of effort. Nice straw man though!

          • stevedidWHAT
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            011 months ago

            That’s not what strawman is but okay lmao.

            Anywho, and realigning the conversation away from being passive aggressive… (I don’t miss Reddit do you?)

            You specifically asked if returning a gift (tacky by many peoples standards) was worth learning a new (simpler) OS. Of course it is, not to mention the myriad of other reasons including security and privacy which you conveniently left out when posing an ultimatum of sorts.

              • stevedidWHAT
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                011 months ago

                Not surprised you ended the convo with an insult.

                Hope you find out what you’re so mad at life and I mean that.

        • @Mistic
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          111 months ago

          Recently, I’ve been watching a bunch of “an Android user switched to iPhone” and “an iPhone user switched to Android” type of videos.

          From what I can tell, iOS is, in fact, harder to adapt to, compared to Android.

          Even tech-savvy guys like Marques outright say that “unlike Android, it’s very easy to forget how to use iPhones” (not an exact quote, but similar meaning).

          • stevedidWHAT
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            111 months ago

            You know you bring up a good point, I was mainly thinking about the settings app when I had commented that.

            There are lots of “gestures” that most android users aren’t used to but I don’t think they’re particularly “hard” to pick up, but there is definitely “more” to pickup. Ultimately, my reason from switching over from only Android to apple were the invisible notification bugs that I was plagued by for 2 different Samsung phones, and the security vulns in android. Then again, these days, apple is starting to pick up more and more nasty vulns. Not sure how Android OSes have been keeping along

    • @[email protected]
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      11 months ago

      Generally selling a gift is in bad taste.

      However… In this case I wouldn’t have an issue with it, since she really isn’t comfortable using it.

      Also, a gift is a gift… When you gift something to someone, you let go of it. What they do with it is up to them, as it’s no longer yours.

      Honestly for most people who aren’t tech-savvy, iPhone is a better solution since things work one way, and you don’t have to figure out how to address the basics (like where is my data, is it being backed up, etc, etc).

      It’s why I use an iPhone for work, but Android personally. iPhone “just works”, even if it’s in a way I find limiting and frustrating. But for the essentials - calls, messaging, calendar, utilities (calculators, estimators, etc) and most typical apps, it’s consistent and pretty straight-forward.

      I find it frustrating when trying to approach it from a computer mindset, looking for files, copying things, etc. It just doesn’t work that way. Apple’s paradigm is about tasks and functions. You share data between apps, rather than save a file, browse the file system, and then open it or copy it somewhere. What you save on the phone (say a word doc) is retained in your files, and if you setup iCloud it all syncs there (with a few exceptions, you can save only locally, but you kind of have to do it intentionally, and it isn’t easy to work with local files like that anyway).

      Set it up without her Sim card, and just work through it a bit, taking a blank-slate approach (act as if you don’t know anything about Android). Think of moving from one task to another, rather than the process of manipulating the system. You don’t open files, you go to the app that performs the task you want.

      I can do most stuff on iOS that I do with Android, just not the computer-like things, and I don’t use iCloud, so it gets painful for me.