I considered deleting the post, but this seems more cowardly than just admitting I was wrong. But TIL something!

  • @[email protected]
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    31 year ago

    if you’re talking about physical objects you have to consider material reality

    If you’re considering material reality then you can’t have an infinite amount of it.

    • @PotatoKat
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      11 year ago

      That’s a concession of the premise, you obviously can’t have infinite anything, but if you could then the 100s would bring more utility

      • @[email protected]
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        01 year ago

        But the utility is not the issue in the premise.

        “Would you rather have an infinite number of $1 or $100 bills?” Obviously $100 bills, but they are worth the same amount.

        • @PotatoKat
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          01 year ago

          If utility isn’t the reason why you’re picking 100s then why would you if they’re the same amount?

          • @[email protected]
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            01 year ago

            Utility is irrelevant to the statement “an infinite number of $1 bills is worth the same amount as an infinite number of $100 bills.”

            • @PotatoKat
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              01 year ago

              What is worth? Would you rather have 500 1s or 5 100s? You already said you’d take the 100s, why? I would take the 100s because I personally value the convenience of 100s more than the 1s, so to me, a single 100 is worth more than 100 1s. Worth doesn’t need to imply the monetary value of the money.

              The convenience/utility makes the 100s worth more even if they’re both valued the same

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                What is worth?

                Dollar value.

                Would you rather have 500 1s or 5 100s?

                Don’t care. They both get deposited at my bank the same.

                You already said you’d take the 100s, why?

                An acknowledgement to the point you were making that was a digression from the discussion at hand. My mistake apparently.

                I would take the 100s because I personally value the convenience of 100s more than the 1s, so to me, a single 100 is worth more than 100 1s.

                I personally would not accept a Genie wish for either as the mass would create a black hole that would destroy the universe. There is no “practical consideration” when dealing with infinities. Knowing how to work with infinities is useful for complex mathematics, but there is no real world application until you simplify away the infinities.

                Worth doesn’t need to imply the monetary value of the money.

                It very much does imply the monetary value of the money. It can mean other things if you want to define it as such, but you need to before hand in such a case. It was not defined differently by OP.

            • @PotatoKat
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              01 year ago

              Also you never said why you’d pick the 100s.

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                I see I made a mistake by acknowledging your argument, and trying to indicate my understanding there of, before trying to get back to the point at hand that an infinite number of $1 bills is worth the same amount as an infinite number of $100 bills.

                I won’t make the same mistake again.