Hello! I’m setting up a kbin instance, and while it’s a little hard to tell thanks to the 0.19 breakage, it seems to be interoperating to some degree with most of the fediverse. I can post messages back and forth, at least.

With lemmy.world, though, it’s not working. I get messages like this in the log:

Get fail: https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819, https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
Bots Temporarily Blocked

And, indeed, it seems like lemmy.world is configured to reject connections from user-agents containing the word “bot”. This is what happens when I access the same URL while manually setting user-agent to what kbin uses for client HTTP requests:

$ wget -nv --user-agent="kbinBot/0.1 (+https://my.domain/bot)" https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819:
2024-01-07 05:25:43 ERROR 412: Precondition Failed.

And, verifying that the word “bot” is the issue:

$ wget -nv --user-agent="kbinAgent/0.1 (+https://my.domain/agent)" https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
2024-01-07 05:25:56 URL:https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819 [264000] -> "6458819.2" [1]

$ wget -nv https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
2024-01-07 05:26:06 URL:https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819 [264006] -> "6458819.3" [1]

While I can understand that many bots are harmful so this is probably a necessary measure, it seems to me like this will break federation with all kbin instances (unless they figure out to change their user agent). No? Would it maybe be a good idea to add an exception to this for kbinBot? I may have misunderstood something, as I’m new to all this, just saying how it looks to me poking at it briefly.

Also, is it okay if I change my user-agent so that it doesn’t contain the forbidden word? Presumably there’s no administrative reason kbin and lemmy.world shouldn’t talk.

  • jelloeater - Ops MgrMA
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    210 months ago

    Hey, I added a exception for kbin and mbin bots, so you should be good now. It was never meant to be a permanent block, just technical testing. Also I did specifically allow kbin.social as well a few days ago, so they should have been fine.

    Please let me know if you have any technical issues going forward 💗

    -Jelloeater

    • mo_ztt ✅OP
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      110 months ago

      Ayyy, that’s wonderful! Thank you, that’s awesome. It still doesn’t work (my log says things like “failed: Failed to get chain object https://lemmy.world/comment/6479326”), but presumably that’s a problem on the kbin side, and I’m happy digging into it and seeing what I can find. If I have any questions or anything I’ll reach out, and thanks again for the quick response + resolution.