• queermunist she/her
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    -1810 months ago

    Ending genocide isn’t on the ballot this year,

    It would be if you cowards had the guts to tell Biden that he will lose if he continues to support genocide.

    • @ultranaut
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      810 months ago

      Sorry but that’s not how it works and insulting me won’t change anything.

      • queermunist she/her
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        10 months ago

        That is how it works! Politicians change their policies based on what their supporters demand of them.

        What do you think politics is? Do you think we’re helpless to the whims of politicians between election cycles?

        You just want to absolve yourself of guilt for actively supporting genocide.

        • @ultranaut
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          910 months ago

          Again, insulting me won’t change anything. I obviously don’t support genocide. I’m done with whatever you’re doing.

            • Drusas
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              410 months ago

              By voting against Biden, including not voting, you are voting for genocide as well. But equally importantly, also voting for fascism.

              • @go_go_gadget
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                -310 months ago

                Well, we made it pretty clear we were fed up with procorporate trash candidates in 2016. But then a bunch of pieces of shit decided they were voting for Biden in the 2020 primaries. We gave him a chance and he fucking blew it. Fuck Joe Biden and fuck everyone who voted for him in the primaries.

    • @blazeknave
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      510 months ago

      The few people on the Internet that read this or feel like you. Grow up. You’re not changing anything. You’re electing Trump. I’ve heard this bullshit for over 20 years and it’s been a slippery fucking slope.

      • Drusas
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        They really do come across as naive children, the people who espouse this kind of belief. Demonstrating a lack of awareness of how complicated global politics are while also demonstrating a lack of awareness of how, in some ways, simple American politics are. They remind me of myself as a high schooler, all full of righteous indignation and hope for change without understanding how things work.

        There will only be two choices for president, no matter how much we may want it to be otherwise or pretend that it could be otherwise. That will remain the case until we can get rid of first past the post and no amount of protesting is going to change that. If you truly want a third party candidate, your focus should be on getting rid of first pass the post. Until then, we only have two options.

        Yes, that does mean our democracy is broken. No, that doesn’t mean it’s unsalvageable. And as I said above, a broken democracy is better than a fascist regime.

        • @blazeknave
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          010 months ago

          That’s the absolute worst part bc at that age I’d say shit like “well maybe they have to sacrifice their kids for there to even be a fucking future!” and thinking that’s reasonable. Getting older, and enough dystopian media about hard choices, I’ve learned to ask “why” a lot more and remember… What are we fighting for in the first place if we lose ourselves along the way? But yeah… You couldn’t change my mind then, even if I couldn’t see a Nazi on my doorstep like this. Very scary to be naive.

      • @go_go_gadget
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        -610 months ago

        The few people on the Internet that read this or feel like you.

        Sounds like you don’t need our votes then. Go win the 2024 general election all on your own.

      • queermunist she/her
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        -810 months ago

        Biden is electing Trump by alienating his base. 80% of Democrats want a ceasefire! What the fuck?!

        Your cynicism is noted, but change is possible if you aren’t too much of a coward to try.

        • @blazeknave
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          010 months ago

          Sorry, no. You’re choosing Trump over Israel. Like it or not. It’s still your choice. Lesser of two evils or otherwise. I don’t like it. I don’t like voting for genocide either my friend, seriously. I hear you too. I don’t disagree what choice I’m making. But I’m making it. And I have to own it like every fiscal conservative holding their nose pulling the ballot lever for domestic cultural genocide in 2016. I’m choosing to fall back, count losses, live to fight another day, and fuck the families and children and babies in Gaza. I am not naive. I cry about those families and children. Damn near every fucking day. But I can’t help them one day, if I’m not around. It’s a catch-22, Sophie’s Choice. But it’s one of a million shit sandwiches in late stage capitalism. And it’s sadly not the one I’m going to throw my hands up at and elect the end of the US. (And I know you’re voting blue, just sharing. Please don’t read this as an aggression.)

    • Drusas
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      110 months ago

      No matter how much people vote against Biden, that won’t end the genocide. Regardless of the fact that Trump would carry it out probably more enthusiastically, neither of them have the power to stop Netanyahu. And Netanyahu doesn’t give a shit what Americans citizens think. He has the military might to subjugate the Palestinians with or without the US and he has made it clear that that’s what he intends to do.

    • @[email protected]
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      010 months ago

      Yeah, President’s don’t care about that shit. They’re beholden to their corporate donors, who are going to be pro-Israel. Geopolitics and oil resources are a bitch, aren’t they?