• @Bernie_Sandals
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    19 months ago

    Only if you focus on economic issues. If you look at what the Democrats have focused on since the New Deal (when they had felt they had solved economics), civil rights, then they’re incredibly more progressive than the 1940’s or even the 1980’s.

    Economically, they are just now beginning to slide leftwards from the 1940’s position, but to focus exclusively on that would be blind to all other progress made.

    • @Ensign_Crab
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      09 months ago

      civil rights, then they’re incredibly more progressive than the 1940’s or even the 1980’s.

      What was the most recent civil rights legislation they passed at the national level? Court decisions aren’t legislation.

      In any event, the article is about Senate Democrats’ support for labor. The most recent action the Senate has taken regarding labor has been enthusiastic strikebreaking.

      Economically, they are just now beginning to slide leftwards from the 1940’s position

      They are just now beginning to pretend to slide towards it.

      • @Bernie_Sandals
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        19 months ago

        Currently it’s focused on legislating the gains made by the courts on areas of gender, sexuality, and racial discrimination I’ve been hearing about this bill and the other bills seen as tag-alongs for the past 4 or so years in professional activist/aide circles.

        In any event, the article is about Senate Democrats’ support for labor. The most recent action the Senate has taken regarding labor has been enthusiastic strikebreaking.

        This is only true if you ignore/dont know about the senate lobbying and negotiation for the PRO-Act.

        They are just now beginning to pretend to slide towards it.

        This is incredibly disingenuous and portrays the vaguely free market years of Clinton as the entirety of democratic policy for the past 70 years.

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          09 months ago

          Currently it’s focused on legislating the gains made by the courts on areas of gender, sexuality, and racial discrimination I’ve been hearing about this bill and the other bills seen as tag-alongs for the past 4 or so years in professional activist/aide circles.

          I didn’t ask what the most recent civil rights legislation they’re not going to pass is. I asked what the most recent civil rights legislation they passed was.

          This is only true if you ignore/dont know about the senate lobbying and negotiation for the PRO-Act.

          They successfully engaged in strikebreaking. Can centrists not tell the difference between claiming to want to accomplish something and actually accomplishing it?

          This is incredibly disingenuous and portrays the vaguely free market years of Clinton as the entirety of democratic policy for the past 70 years.

          If we ever get to the left of Clinton again, you can make that claim with some legitimacy.

          • @Bernie_Sandals
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            09 months ago

            I didn’t ask what the most recent civil rights legislation they’re not going to pass is. I asked what the most recent civil rights legislation they passed was.

            Lmfao stfu, imagine taking years of work/activism and pissing all over it like this.

            They successfully engaged in strikebreaking. Can centrists not tell the difference between claiming to want to accomplish something and actually accomplishing it?

            Can “radicals” ever figure out how politics actually works instead of just claiming everyone is a liar liar pants on fire?

            If we ever get to the left of Clinton again, you can make that claim with some legitimacy.

            The only physical way you can claim that the bootleg social democracy of Biden is to the right of Bill Clinton’s Neoliberalism is if you’re willfully ignorant of the direction the part has been heading the past 20 years.

            • @Ensign_Crab
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              09 months ago

              Aspiration isn’t accomplishment. Just because you’re happy to accept nothing because you prefer nothing, that doesn’t mean others are content with it.

            • HACKthePRISONS
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              09 months ago

              > imagine taking years of work/activism and pissing all over it like this.

              imagine not doing something and getting credited with work and activism

              • @Bernie_Sandals
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                09 months ago

                It’s more like, imagine trying to do something and spending most of your time on it and then have a bunch of people pissed off you’re not done with it yet the first time they ever hear of your effort.

                • @Ensign_Crab
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                  09 months ago

                  Don’t expect praise for something that hasn’t passed, and maybe you won’t have people pissed off because you’re demanding praise for something that hasn’t passed.