• @[email protected]OP
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      811 months ago

      It’s not about ‘fucked/not fucked’ but a matter of degree.

      We’re at the point where we go into what is essentially a minefield where we’ll see individual ecosystem components fail. We don’t know exactly when each of those will happen, but we do know that every 1/10 of a degree of warming we can avoid sharply lowers the risk from here on out.

      • @Sterile_Technique
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        611 months ago

        every 1/10 of a degree of warming we can avoid sharply lowers the risk from here on out.

        So… we’re extra, all-the-way, hopelessly fucked.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          111 months ago

          We’re at the point we’re pretty bad things happen, but not yet at the point where they’re bad enough to take down civilization. Acting quickly will keep it from getting that bad

          • @agent_flounder
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            411 months ago

            Unfortunately, humans tend to defer action to prevent future catastrophe until bad things are presently happening or have happened. And they will defer longer when more immediate personal interest comes into play or if another immediate threat exists, like being fired and becoming homeless as a result of actively protesting.

            Since climate change isn’t significantly affecting rich people monetarily or otherwise, and because of human nature, including greed, selfishness, cowardice, I am skeptical we are going to correct fast enough.

            I hope I am wrong and certain people in power wake up and change tack. We still have a chance to avert unprecedented disaster.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              411 months ago

              There has started to be change. The US and EU are actually cutting emissions already, and it looks like China is about to.

              It’s that we’re not cutting emissions to zero quickly enough yet. That’s going to take a lot of work to make it happen.