They are “moving left” because people who are not Democrats have to join the party to have any hope of winning anything.
That does not mean Democrats are happy about people trying to pull them left, nor does that mean they will accept any of this at a party platform level, nor does it mean they will ACTUALLY fight for anything.
Remember: Democrats’ big win in the 2010’s was … passing a Republican health care plan from the 90’s. Hillary wanted a slow transition to GAS instead of clean energy.
Democrats are not and never will be truly progressive. Ever. It is literally antithetical to their ideology. They are a baby-steps party. They are “enlightened centrists”, and will always have the problems that ignorant position entails.
That doesn’t mean we should ignore them or not use their party. It just means once the Republicans have lost power, don’t be surprised if it takes creating a party to the left of Democrats to get anything serious changed.
absolutely, I 100% agree. The democrats in MN and MI didn’t move left because they wanted to, they moved left because if they didn’t then their constituents would be pissed. It’s also worth pointing out that the progressive policies passed in those states didn’t have anything less than 70% support. Keeping and hoarding power is the only reason establishment parties do anything, and we should never forget that. They have a useful framework that can be pretty easily co-opted from the local level. The work done by independents and progressive third parties are just as important as hijacking the democratic party for a leftist agenda, but we should be prepared to drop them like a turd the moment the Republican party falls into total insolvency.
Yea. Unfortunately with the two party system, we literally HAVE to go through Democrats to get any power.
Which makes it all the more important to always remember that Democrats are not allies to progressives when progressives are the other party. Democrats actually like a slow ineffectual government.
They are “moving left” because people who are not Democrats have to join the party to have any hope of winning anything.
That does not mean Democrats are happy about people trying to pull them left, nor does that mean they will accept any of this at a party platform level, nor does it mean they will ACTUALLY fight for anything.
Remember: Democrats’ big win in the 2010’s was … passing a Republican health care plan from the 90’s. Hillary wanted a slow transition to GAS instead of clean energy.
Democrats are not and never will be truly progressive. Ever. It is literally antithetical to their ideology. They are a baby-steps party. They are “enlightened centrists”, and will always have the problems that ignorant position entails.
That doesn’t mean we should ignore them or not use their party. It just means once the Republicans have lost power, don’t be surprised if it takes creating a party to the left of Democrats to get anything serious changed.
absolutely, I 100% agree. The democrats in MN and MI didn’t move left because they wanted to, they moved left because if they didn’t then their constituents would be pissed. It’s also worth pointing out that the progressive policies passed in those states didn’t have anything less than 70% support. Keeping and hoarding power is the only reason establishment parties do anything, and we should never forget that. They have a useful framework that can be pretty easily co-opted from the local level. The work done by independents and progressive third parties are just as important as hijacking the democratic party for a leftist agenda, but we should be prepared to drop them like a turd the moment the Republican party falls into total insolvency.
Yea. Unfortunately with the two party system, we literally HAVE to go through Democrats to get any power.
Which makes it all the more important to always remember that Democrats are not allies to progressives when progressives are the other party. Democrats actually like a slow ineffectual government.