• stown
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    91 year ago

    Come on, you play right into their bullshit propaganda with that message. If they go low we don’t stoop to their level. We do not win elections by removing voting rights for those we disagree with - that is an authoritarian tactic.

    • Adlach
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      11 year ago

      “sure, we let fascism run rampant over society, but that was the respectable thing to do”

    • @[email protected]
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      -11 year ago

      there isn’t really any ‘nobility’ in ‘taking the high road’ while marginalized communities continue to get owned and killed. Trans kids are being targeted, women are being targeted, BIPOC are being targeted.

      what good is civility? authoritarian leftism is the only way to get results

      • Addica
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        31 year ago

        Using authoritarianism is a fast track to ensuring that new generations of people see leftism as the enemy, if they don’t already feel that way.

        Taking away agency of people doesn’t create lasting social systems; the masses aren’t inspired to uphold the values by fear of consequence alone. People en mass will never accept being told what to do if they feel it takes away their agency. If anything you only breed resistance and contempt for your system of choice.

        Who would you even trust to have such power? How could they be expected to uphold their values? How do you know that authoritarian power can’t/won’t be corrupted? Are you going to allow the murder of others if it cast as ‘just’ in the eyes of that power?

        Authoritarianism had its hour, and in that time blighted all it touched. If it weren’t for authoritarian leftists muddying the waters of the term ‘Communist’, Id imagine we’d have seen a lot more societies adopting those ideas instead of equating ‘communism’ with authoritarianism and rejecting it outright

        • @whatsarefoogee
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          11 year ago

          You’re entirely correct in your first sentence. I don’t support the left despite it sharing the majority of my values.

          If I were to generalize, I would say the right is just stupid. But the left has been becoming more and more dangerous with the rise of approval for authoritarianism and “ends justify the means” approach.

          “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

          • C. S. Lewis
      • @fifisaac
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        11 year ago

        For ‘authoritarian leftism’ to work (at least in theory), the proletariat need to be united. You can’t just have a revolution that half the population oppose and expect to have a successful country