• @psycho_driver
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    I wonder where we’d be if Bernie had won in 2016?

      • BigFig
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        3111 months ago

        Gore did win. If you want arguments of illegitimate presidents W. takes the cake

    • @jettrscga
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      The sad thing is this question never makes me question his intentions like it would with other politicians.

      It’s only about how other politicians would work with him. I have a feeling he’d get totally shut down from getting anything done. He’s “extreme” even for some democrats who have drifted right.

    • @[email protected]
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      Sadly, he likely would have been assassinated, I am sorry to say, or to even think that.:-( He is REALLY hated by the establishment, yes even that strongly.

      They pull out ALL the stops when reporting about his performance - ignoring humongous entirely sold-out crowds that showed up during sub-zero temps in a snowstorm even (while conversely Hillary Clinton literally paid people to show up at hers, and still could not manage even a quarter of a much smaller room - they had to put up flags on either side just to make it look less empty, and this even in her home state), and I recall one analysis that I saw on Reddit showing images where they swapped the “this person won = shown first, and in green color” and “this person lost = shown second, and in yellow”, showing Bernie’s win in yellow and second EVEN THOUGH HE WON. It was accompanied by commentary from someone who worked at a TV station who explained how much effort it would be to swap out the color plates from showing one person, then swap them out quickly while switching to Bernie, then swap them out AGAIN to describe the person after him - i.e., they really went out of their way to make that little “oopsie” happen (assuming this was true, but I tend to believe it based on everything else I’ve seen happen wrt how they report him).

      The thing is, Obama brought up some solid points about why he makes a good congressman but may not make a good President: it is one thing to advocate for reform, like a prophet in the wilderness Obama said, but it is another to be a King - you have to make the tough choices. i.e., Bernie tells us which way we should go, and that is a huge service that he does us, plus serves as a Senator, but could he really stand up to Putin - is he capable of realizing the sheer amount of evil that he represents? (this might be the link? I don’t have an X account so I literally cannot read it myself, and I refuse to make one too:-P)

      Then again, just about every decision that Bernie has made has been correct so far - as demonstrated by his voting record - so… there is that:-).

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        but could he really stand up to Putin - is he capable of realizing the sheer amount of evil that he represents?

        Absolutely. Bernie is fearless. For your second question, do you really think that after more than 50 years serving in one of the highest seats in the land, he doesn’t understand what happens in the government? He understands considerably more than you and I do. He understands more than everyone in this thread combined. But he faces it and always stands for what is right, and people hate him for it.

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        Thanks for this honest comment. I think we all agree we’d prefer to go down on fire trying to do right vs chickening out.

        I think Bernie would prefer to say least try, and I wish he’d gotten the chance.