• @dustyData
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    611 months ago

    Stock Ubuntu is the benchmark […]

    …for nothing this days. The only people using Ubuntu now are dinosaurs and system managers running cheap servers or locked into Canonical’s ecosystem, and the latter are using headless servers, remotely managed, not the DE. Variety is the spice of life. All mainstream DEs are perfectly serviceable, 100% compatible with everything and completely stable and reliable. FFS, Ubuntu’s snaps don’t even work well on their own DE. Stop fearmongering for Canonical, let people live life.

    • @Linkerbaan
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      -611 months ago

      You do you. Just stop wasting other people’s time with this worthless false hope. What I’m saying here is what I would have liked people to tell me before I wasted my time troubleshooting issues caused by custom Desktop Environments. What’s next you’re going to tell me Wayland already runs without issues too?

      The stock Ubuntu environment looks pretty decent to begin with.

      • @dustyData
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        311 months ago

        Wow, you really are aggressive and hostile for no reason. You can use Ubuntu all you want. But don’t go around spreading lies just because you are too cognitively challenged to change your DE without breaking the OS. Most people are fine making a fresh install with the DE they want to try preinstalled and it works fine 100% out of the box. It’s trying to make two different DE live on the same system at the same time that is only partially supported and thoroughly discouraged by every single DE developer. Most of the time installing a new DE on a system and uninstalling the old one is a pretty straightforward, although dirty process. Guess who is particularly bad and incompatible with that process? Ubuntu. It has the worst support for alternative DEs, because Ubuntu is not the benchmark for squat shit anymore. Use a real end user distro, and you’ll be able to change DE to your heart’s content without issue.

        • @[email protected]
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          311 months ago

          I’m only on Linux for a few months (as a daily driver, always used headless servers before that), and I’m almost certain that my Fedora install came with both KDE and Gnome in Wayland and X11 flavors pre-installed out of the box, and I could just choose between them at login screen. Or am I wrong, and I do I just not remmeber installing the other manually? I mean, that’s also possible, it’s been a while.

        • @Linkerbaan
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          -511 months ago

          Because advice like this is an enormous waste of time. Calling people dinosaurs for using Ubuntu instead of KDE is a pretty out there take. The only more modern option is arch based distros like Manjaro but since every programming tutorial assumes you have APT and are running Ubuntu I don’t see much of a reason to deviate from that.

          • @[email protected]
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            411 months ago

            it seems you should be using debian or distros based on it. ubuntu, as far as i know, uses apt as a mirror to snap, so as long as the tutorials youre following letter for letter arent too recent, you really should be using debian for actual apt packages, since ubuntu used those a couple of years ago.

            you can also use fedora or arch, but it seems you dont want to check what package youre downloading at all, and just want to follow tutorials blindly.

            • @Linkerbaan
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              -511 months ago

              People here are under the illusion that a DE changes nothing about the base OS. It seems like those people have never actually been using their OS.

              • @[email protected]
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                211 months ago

                the DE doesnt change anything in the base os unless you count its packages and rare incompatibilities as noticeable changes.

                what it does change is the visual experience.

                • @Linkerbaan
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                  111 months ago

                  No it installs and uninstalls a ton of packages and often relies on specific versions of certain packages. This is like saying Ubuntu isn’t different from Debian.

                  Some DE’s even use Wayland which will break a ton of software such as OpenCV.

          • TimeSquirrel
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            11 months ago

            Dude…I build my desktops from a bare Debian text only terminal by installing it piece by piece and only what I need. This current install has bee running fine for three years and I have no issues installing and configuring anything you can on Ubuntu.

            This is a skill issue on your part, not an OS issue. At a certain point, if you’ve been using it enough, the distro literally doesn’t matter anymore. Linux is Linux is Linux.

            • @Linkerbaan
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              -311 months ago

              That’s like saying that you run Gentoo but you don’t even have the street cred of running Gentoo.

          • @dustyData
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            111 months ago

            I won’t argue with you. You obviously just want a fight. And the glaring ignorant sentences in this particular comment convince me that either you’re too greenhorn on Linux to understand anything I have to say. Or you are an intentional troll looking for negative engagement. So, goodbye and enjoy the downvotes.

            • @Linkerbaan
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              -111 months ago

              Call everyone using Ubuntu a dinosaur

              Get debunked

              Pretend you’re the victim

              OK dude good luck bye.