• joobeejoo47
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    610 months ago

    I was taught this growing up. It took me a long time to get out of that “states rights” mindset and accept the fact that a bunch of rebels could be bad people. The Ordinances of Secession really helped with that.

    • @yesman
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      610 months ago

      South Carolina’s Deceleration of Secession really spells it out. Check it out it’s not long.

      https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp

      Ever since I read this, I don’t say “Confederate”, I say slave-holding. That’s how they self-identified and I’ll never let them forget.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        210 months ago

        Why did they spend so much time on the history lessons? Over half the document is just rehashing history. I guess to establish precedent?

    • @Custoslibera
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      110 months ago

      How did the Ordinance of Secession help you with that?

      • PugJesusOP
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        210 months ago

        Most of them reference slavery as the cause, I believe.

        • @Custoslibera
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          110 months ago

          I was just flicking through it I couldn’t find states that specifically mentioned it.

          I’ll have another read.

          • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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            fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.

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            The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

            There are 18 references to slavery in that document.

          • PugJesusOP
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            110 months ago

            Looks like only three Ordinances reference slavery, must be the declarations I’m thinking of.