• @Garbanzo
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    3610 months ago

    Tishby said: “One side is a democracy and, like any other democracy, it’s a flawed democracy. The other side is a jihadi genocidal organization that is fully committed to your annihilation.

    Oh, pardon me, if y’all voted for genocide then that’s completely different, good point.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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      010 months ago

      I think your quoted text is an excellent and succinct point, and absolutely true.

      In the democracy, there is hope for lasting human rights for tens of millions of people.

      Hamas has no future. It would be a lot cooler if they stopped using human shields but your sympathy is part of their strategy, that’s why those civilians are dead.

      • @Garbanzo
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        610 months ago

        Those civilians are dead because the IDF killed them. It’s really that simple. Being human shields doesn’t mean you can bomb them. Asshole.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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          I agree you can’t just bomb people because they are standing next to a military target. You have to warn them first.

          Such as by calling them on the phone, sending texts, air dropping leaflets, and firing warning shots, all of which the IDF does.

          • @Garbanzo
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            510 months ago

            Uh huh, then they turn around and bomb the safe zone.

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            Wouldn’t Hamas just leave the location as well if you “warn” civilians?

            Btw when did Israel last perform a roof knock (aka warning you that you will be bombed by bombing your house)

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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              There are videos of it happening during this war and it involves percussive shells not bombs.

              Hamas might leave the location absolutely. They might also tell their entire extended family that God wants them to go stand on the roof, now, and await their rewards in paradise. Absolute psychopaths.

              They aren’t going to leave carrying rockets and rocket launchers on their backs and they can’t bring the tunnels with them.

    • @sugarfree
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      -5910 months ago

      A self-defense military operation against insane terrorists is not genocide in any way.

      • Omega
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        3210 months ago

        You’re right. However, the rest is genocide.

        • @sugarfree
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          -5510 months ago

          No. Genocide isn’t a term you can throw around lightly, something you don’t like isn’t genocide just because you think it is. There is no genocide in Palestine, and it’s horrendously offensive to even suggest that such a thing is occurring.

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                110 months ago

                I will repeat this again, the IDF could kill your mother and you’ll just say there was a tunnel in her head.

          • @[email protected]
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            2210 months ago

            Just because you say it doesn’t make it true, and just because you pretend to be horrified or offended doesn’t make it false

          • Omega
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            1510 months ago

            Telling people they shouldn’t talk about genocide is horrendously offensive.

            • Ashy
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              -2210 months ago

              Trivializing actual genocide by just throwing the word around is also horrendously offensive.

              • Omega
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                1510 months ago

                Trivializing actual genocide by dismissing it is horrendously offensive.

          • Rentlar
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            1410 months ago

            South Africa is making the case that it’s genocide, that’s not to be taken lightly and it’s not just random people saying it is.

            There’s been plenty of evidence. Look at the one-sided settler violence that’s been happening in West Bank, the people killed there are by and large uninvolved with the October massacre and terrorist attacks, including the American-Palestinian boy from Louisiana.

            Israel kills doctors: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1213307710/gaza-doctors-al-shifa-hospital

            Israel kills journalists, some intentionally: https://cpj.org/2024/01/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/

            Israel kills children: https://www.telegraphindia.com/world/strike-kills-12-people-mostly-children-in-gaza-area-declared-safe-zone-by-israel/cid/1991673 (and are a significant portion of the reported 25000 dead from the conflict)

            Israel strikes locations where it tells civilians to evacuate to for safety: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-hamas-war-day-59-1.7048019

            I have nothing against Jews or people who are from Israel. We have to stop supporting and sanction the IDF and Israeli government’s policy of recklessly inflicting non-combatant casualties in the region.

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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              Look who joined South Africa’s complaint. That’s all you need to know. Look who’s line you’re towing right now. Paragraph 12 of South Africa’s application.

              Presidents of Algeria, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Cuba, Iran, Türkiye, and Venezuela have all described Israel’s actions as a genocide, as has the Palestinian President. State officials and representatives from Bangladesh, Egypt, Honduras, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, Malaysia, Namibia, Pakistan, Syria, and Tunisia.

              Find them credible on human rights?

          • @[email protected]
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            -2210 months ago

            I agree with you, but found out real quick that people on here really do believe the over the top rhetoric with respect to this religious war. Now I generally just pass on by without commenting. This being an exception. The better to gather downvotes I suppose.

            • @kurwa
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              1710 months ago

              It’s good to know you support the killing of 10s of thousands of innocent civilians, many women and children, and the forced starvation of at least half a million people. Of course though, because they are Arab means they don’t count as people right?