• @Maggoty
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    511 months ago

    That’s ridiculous. Middle class is absolutely part of the working class. It starts around 70k for a single income in a rural area. And 120k for double income in a high cost area.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 months ago

      Who in those income brackets can afford their house, car, and vacations?

      600k for a rural house, 5% mortgage is 30k

      1.5m in urban, 5% mortgage is 75k

      Car is 20-40k

      Food is 16k/year

      30+20+16= 66 out of 70 but you aren’t buying a new car every year

      So let’s say you’re spending 1.8/L on it and going 20 000km per year. CX-5 is 8.2L per 100

      I believe that’s 1640L so an expense of 2952

      Our number then is 30+2.952+16 for simplicity we will just say 49

      So we have 21k left, for heating I found it cost 3840, again round up to 4 so we have 17k

      I know what you’re thinking what about tax?

      Property tax we will go cheap with 1% because we rounded the other things up. 6k

      Now we have 11k

      Income tax?

      Thats 12 333 but we will round down to 12k

      We are now -1k

      Yearly vacation that you take if you’re middle class? Let’s say 5k

      We are now -6k

      there are more expenses of course but you get the idea

      • @RaoulDook
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        111 months ago

        Your cost for a rural house is way off. It’s more like 200k in the current market. Mine was less.

        I’m the one you’re asking about - “who in those income brackets can afford their house, car, and vacation?” because I’m in that income bracket and and able to afford it all. I could buy a car with the money in my checking account, own my house, and take vacations on occasion.

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          11 months ago

          house is way off. It’s more like 200k in the current market. Mine was less.

          I am currently looking, it’s not

          Your price would be vacant land or American

      • @ThatWeirdGuy1001
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        011 months ago

        Are you a teacher?

        I only ask because this sounds exactly like the response a fed up teacher would give