• @iopq
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    -710 months ago

    80% are not living paycheck to paycheck

      • @iopq
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        010 months ago

        The person who makes the claim should prove it first

            • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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              10 months ago

              We asked respondents to describe their current income situation.

              You mean 40% of forbes readers live paycheck to paycheck?!

              This may surprise you but not everyone reads forbes.

              (selection bias)

              • @iopq
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                110 months ago

                Where does it say they only surveyed readers?

                • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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                  10 months ago

                  I mean, forbes did the survey. Do you think they didn’t use their reader base?

                  As for only surveying readers, lemme look at the survey and see if it said that. My concern is that a magazine performing a survey is going to have some issues with selection bias.

                  edit:

                  So, in this case, it suffers from a very small sample size. There may be funding concerns too.

                  • @iopq
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                    010 months ago

                    3000 is not a small sample size. 30 is a small sample size.

                    Presidential polls are often done with this, or even smaller sample sizes.

              • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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                010 months ago

                Lots of articles are saying 60 to 69%. CNBC, Barrons, LendingClub. I can’t find a better source but… 40% from a rich person’s mag like forbes is just too much man. I would estimate 55% to 70%, so 80% doesn’t seem that far off.

                  • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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                    010 months ago

                    Neither you nor I have a decent source yet. All of these sources are from surveys, you just pick your organization. A skimming of the google search results for this gives numbers in the 55% to 69% range, but that’s not a good source. So far what we’ve found is:

                    Forbes survey: 40% Lending club survey 60%

                    I don’t have a source for 80% where the meme claimed.

    • @GreatCornolio
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      310 months ago

      you’re also not the working poor if you live paycheck to paycheck and make 150k/year. you just fucking aren’t, it’s your own fault you’re not saving money at that point

      • @Mamertine
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        610 months ago

        This is the problem with consumerism. Most American households do live with very little savings. Even people with really high income do this. It’s culturally normal and encouraged with all the advertising to buy more stuff.

        A doctor earning over $300,000 a year in the Midwest should but under any circumstances be considered the working poor simply because they don’t have any savings.

        • @iopq
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          110 months ago

          My dad made around this amount in SF Bay Area and we made do, including a big mortgage payment, car payments, etc.

          150K is a lot of money

        • @GreatCornolio
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          010 months ago

          Just because you had to live in a neighborhood with $5000/month rent doesn’t mean you’re poor just because you piss your money away. A doctor with no money leftover every month isn’t poor, he’s just retarded.