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    “Holds no power” <- when did I ever say this?

    Thanks again for doing the typical tankie thing of trying to quote me on words I never said. Lovely good faith discussion here.

    Biden must have stolen your tact lmao.

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      But don’t you know? You either hold ALL THE POWER or ^none ^of ^it. There is no in-between /s

    • @TokenBoomer
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      So, Biden does hold some power, and voters can hold him accountable? Which is it?

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        Why is it whenever your ilk comes out to have a “discussion” it’s always absolutes and false quotations?

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          It’s because these kids don’t understand that there are the bullshit bandwagon socialism they’ve subscribed to can only succeed in theory. And they don’t know theory isn’t really- so when they attempt to debate political topics- they have no idea what they’re talking about.

        • @TokenBoomer
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          Because-

          Biden controls the universe and singlehandedly killed all the dinosaurs after stubbing his little toe on a coffee table.

          Either he has power and can be held accountable, or his power is limited and not voting for him doesn’t matter. It’s logic.

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            Not voting for him gets you trump. People have explained this to you already. Many times. You refuse to understand this. Why?

            Why do you think people who are CLEARLY smarter than you, and more well versed in politics are all wrong, and YOU are the one that is right?

            How is it that everyone that has tried to reason with you is wrong?

            • @TokenBoomer
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              Wait. You make me participate in a system (capitalism) that I did not choose, and offer me no alternatives. Then, demand that I have to vote to prevent this system from collapsing. And, somehow this is all my fault?

              Stop blaming your fellow humans and start blaming the system (capitalism).

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                Nope. I’ll blame you and the rest of the trendy tankies that are staying home and letting Trump win. . Trust me- you’ll understand why everyone hates you when you grow up some. Sure… It’ll be cringy. And you’ll probably feel a bit of shame- but hopefully it’ll be a good learning experience.

                • @TokenBoomer
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                  “Trendy Tankies” would be a good name for a Ska or Swing band.

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            The reality is he has very little power over the events people are upset about but a lot of power over other important things he’s doing fairly well at.

            There is no good choice in the Middle East, if he pulled out of the historical agreements with Israel and left them defenceless then he’d get even more people blaming him for a genocide, or the US would have to step in directly when the amount of dead Israelies reached a point public opinion demanded it…

            People already complain that Israel created Hamas and when you look into those arguments they stem from articles saying that in prior conflicts Israel has stopped before completely defeating them… this is a situation with no good move. Even if some people got their wish and all the Jewish people were killed it’s not going to solve all the issues in the region, the current situation is possibly the path with the least amount of human tragedy and suffering that we have available.

            • @TokenBoomer
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              Even if some people got their wish and all the Jewish people were killed

              Well, that’s not anti-Semitic.

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                In case it was missed I’m suggesting that there are anti Semitic people who want that, obviously I don’t

                • @TokenBoomer
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                  the current situation is possibly the path with the least amount of human tragedy

                  So, a genocide. How magnanimous.

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                    Picking the most emotive term for everything has a very short lived power, everything is a genocide these days according to someone.

                    The reality is it’s a very complex situation with many facets, it’s an asymmetric war with very well funded and trained terrorists getting support from Iran and other fundamentalist groups - it’s not a small group of innocent people in an open air prison as you want to paint it, there’s a huge oil rich and bloody handed gang of despots who maintain power much like any despot by distracting everyone with ideological conflicts - Iran needs the region to hate Israel so they need a war like this, they get their trained terrorists to fire missiles they supply and that’s all they care about.

                    Israel has been making great progress politically in the region, the deal supplying Jordan with desalinated water transformed a crisis everyone predicted to be the start of the water wars into a partnership. With Saudi Arabia moving towards similar partnerships countries like Iran didn’t want to sit idle and outy happen. How should Israel and it’s allies respond?