• @BrotherL0v3
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    -131 year ago

    You don’t need to be an expert to not shoot somebody. There are four basic rules of gun safety, and you can memorize them in a matter of minutes.

    Honestly, I entirely reject the idea that actors are not liable to learn basic firearm safety if they are going to handle guns. Industry standards be damned, responsible adults have an obligation to know what they’re doing before willingly entering a potentially dangerous situation.

    • @AngryishHumanoid
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      81 year ago

      Do you follow the 4 rules every time someone hands you a Nerf gun? What would happen if someone handed you a gun disguised as a Nerf gun and you shot and killed someone with it? Would you be at fault? No, you didn’t know it was a real, working gun. Whether you agree with the reality that the guns used on movie sets are a combination of real guns, decommissioned real guns, and straight up prop guns: if someone hands you a gun and says “This gun has blanks in it” and you shoot and kill someone with it… how would that be different from the disguised Nerf gun scenario?

      • @BrotherL0v3
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        -91 year ago

        Well, a Nerf gun is a toy and a gun is a gun. If someone hands you a gun disguised as a toy, I agree that you shouldn’t be held responsible for accidentally shooting someone.

        However, I don’t think that comparison tracks for guns loaded with blanks / deactivated firearms / prop guns. Pointing something that has any reasonable chance of being a not-disguised gun at someone and pulling the trigger is something you should refuse to do.

        • @AngryishHumanoid
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          1 year ago

          So if instead of a Western it was a sci fi movie and the gun was made up to look like a laser blaster and it fired and killed someone the actor would have a better defense?

          • @BrotherL0v3
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            01 year ago

            Sure, that makes sense to me. I guess it stands to reason that the less something looks like a gun, the more understandable it is that someone would fail to follow the rules of gun safety while handling it.

            And to be clear, none of what I say is meant to absolve the armorer. To my mind, all of the following are true:

            • The practice of using functional firearms alongside non-functional prop guns is dangerous and leads to incidents like this.
            • The armorer was negligent in letting a real round into a gun that was being used to shoot a scene (why were there even live rounds around to begin with?).
            • It is reckless and dangerous to point a real gun loaded with blanks at someone, and doubly so to pull the trigger. No scene in a movie is worth that risk, and everyone who decided the scene had to go that way shares the blame if something goes wrong.
            • Anyone who knows they will be handling a gun has a responsibility to learn how to do so safely.