• @Linkerbaan
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    -810 months ago

    Exactly the same thing you mean.

    • PugJesusOP
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      610 months ago

      If I cite any of the many, many times in which Hamas has unambiguously and deliberately targeted civilians with planned attacks, will you concede, or will you just make excuses for the slaughter of civilians?

      • @Linkerbaan
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        -410 months ago

        The ANC had a FAR worse civilian casualty rate than Hamas. The Hamas civilian casualty rate is 66% even including IDF friendly fire on civilians.

        If you find a planned attack on civilians from October 7 do link it. I’m curious to see it and will watch it.

        • PugJesusOP
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          510 months ago

          If you find a planned attack on civilians from October 7 do link it. I’m curious to see it and will watch it.

          I was actually intending on doing any of the many, many pre-October 7th attacks because I’ve seen people deny proof of intentional targeting of civilians as “Israeli propaganda”.

          • @Linkerbaan
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            If you read a little further in the ANC letter:

            ANC says some guerrillas insufficiently trained

            The ANC repeated its position that the armed struggle against the country’s white-ruled government, which began in 1960, was a just war and that civilians had not been deliberately targeted.

            But the ANC statement said some of its guerrillas weren’t sufficiently trained and “were never thoroughly under the discipline of the ANC.”

            I already know some Hamas members went rogue. When you work with people who’s entire families have been bombed by israel some tend to get trigger happy.

            The question is whether these were planned orders from the top down or soldiers going rogue.

            • PugJesusOP
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              510 months ago

              The question is whether these were planned orders from the top down or soldiers going rogue.

              Okay, so, again, if I provide you with evidence that Hamas has committed attacks which were deliberately planned, from the top-down, to target civilians, you’ll concede the point?

              • @DoomBot5
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                410 months ago

                Nah, he will just call it propaganda and accuse you of wanting all Palestinian children dead. That’s all he does.

                • @Linkerbaan
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                  Instead of strawmanning show me the evidence you’re all so sure exists. Should be a lot easier right?

                  Doesn’t it exist?

                  • @DoomBot5
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                    110 months ago

                    It does, and every time you’re shown it you just call it propaganda or a fairy tale.

                  • @Linkerbaan
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                    My man this is from 2005. We are talking about 7 October 2023 right now. Your cop out is insane it’s 20 years old. Leadership has changed completely.

                    Show me evidence that in the attack we are talking about there was a planned attack on civilians. Your claim was that THIS attack intentionally and planned from the top down, targeted to kill civilians.

                    I can link you to every country on earth committing genofide in the past too. That’s not relevant to the current conflict.