I don’t mean to fucking kill them, sheesh. Just to keep them from converting our kids in the schools, push their “moral” ideas in the government, etc, until the religion dies out. “…until Christianity is destroyed…” not “go violently destroy Christians.”
I believe their ideology needs to be exposed for what it truly is, and we should fight them peacefully by educating the next generation about their atrocities.
They believe I should burn in hellfire for an eternity, converted to their ways, or killed in hate crimes. They believe my livelihood should end, our business should be violently burned and destroyed, and I should be the victim of humanitarian atrocities until I convert or die of suicide.
If there is no difference in that, then there is no difference in any war or ideological conflicts.
Were the allies wrong for seeking peaceful alternatives and, finally, declaring war on the Nazis? Is Ukraine wrong for defending its existence against Russia? Were the first secular academics wrong for insisting on their right to teach and pursue science when the justice system of the time was literally burning a few of them at the stake, and socially outcasting and tormenting the rest of them? Was the United States wrong in defending the right of universal freedom against the threat of the Confederate States?
There is a difference… We fight with truth, we assert our right to exist by peaceful means and, if it comes to it, self-defense.
They fight with hate, doctrine, abuse and hellfire. They fight for removal of our right to peacefully exist and be accepted. They ensure the next generation of dogmatic oppressors by teaching in the culture and the schools, normalizing the quiet abuse of any of their children who refuse conform to it. I know first hand. I was one of those children.
You don’t know Christianity, you only know the ways in which horrible people have misused it to hurt you, and because of that you’ve let yourself become as wicked as them.
That is sad, but one day you will heal and your heart will know peace. I know I was in the same boat.
I’m still not a Christian, but I don’t hold disdain for them anymore.
Those ‘horrible people’ were all Christians lol. Have you read that awful book they love so much?
Dashing babies’ heads against rocks is great! Slaves are a-okay! Give your daughters to a mob to be raped so your guests aren’t bothered! Oh, and genocide is awesome too.
It’s a terrible religion that somehow occasionally makes decent people. Jesus had some good ideas, but they do their best to ignore as many of them as they can.
Because you cherry picking the worst parts and ignoring historical context and allegory is totally different from when fundies cherry picking the worst parts and ignoring historical context and allegory.
Intolerance of… a hateful belief that most of them choose. And one that the one’s who don’t choose (children) are forced into?
That intolerance?
idk seems like it’d be fine to be intolerant of hate
If that is what Christianity actually brought to the world, then we wouldn’t be in this position. They pay lip service to it. Nothing more. Fuck them all.
The very founders of the Catholic church corrupted that goal.
The people who truly do care about others are amazing, but that is not the majority of Christians, especially when it comes to how they feel about queer people. That is what I mean when I say Christianity.
I apologize for not making that clearer I was on a time crunch /gen
Your definition is inaccurate to the point of not making sense.
To be clear, I am not defending them, but the people carrying out these attacks don’t see being trans as an inherent part of the person.
By the definition of “genocide” you gave, wanting to eliminate (for example) illiteracy would involve genocide against illiterate people; it’s one heck of a jump.
There’s a substantial gap between “get rid of the thing we see as helping cause this” and “kill everyone affected by this.”
Your answer to genocide is genocide? The fuck is wrong with you?
I don’t mean to fucking kill them, sheesh. Just to keep them from converting our kids in the schools, push their “moral” ideas in the government, etc, until the religion dies out. “…until Christianity is destroyed…” not “go violently destroy Christians.”
You talk about Christians the same way the Far Right talks about trans people.
If you don’t realize that, that’s sad If you do realize that, you’re no different from the fascists and should be ashamed of yourself.
I believe their ideology needs to be exposed for what it truly is, and we should fight them peacefully by educating the next generation about their atrocities.
They believe I should burn in hellfire for an eternity, converted to their ways, or killed in hate crimes. They believe my livelihood should end, our business should be violently burned and destroyed, and I should be the victim of humanitarian atrocities until I convert or die of suicide.
If there is no difference in that, then there is no difference in any war or ideological conflicts.
Were the allies wrong for seeking peaceful alternatives and, finally, declaring war on the Nazis? Is Ukraine wrong for defending its existence against Russia? Were the first secular academics wrong for insisting on their right to teach and pursue science when the justice system of the time was literally burning a few of them at the stake, and socially outcasting and tormenting the rest of them? Was the United States wrong in defending the right of universal freedom against the threat of the Confederate States?
There is a difference… We fight with truth, we assert our right to exist by peaceful means and, if it comes to it, self-defense.
They fight with hate, doctrine, abuse and hellfire. They fight for removal of our right to peacefully exist and be accepted. They ensure the next generation of dogmatic oppressors by teaching in the culture and the schools, normalizing the quiet abuse of any of their children who refuse conform to it. I know first hand. I was one of those children.
You don’t know Christianity, you only know the ways in which horrible people have misused it to hurt you, and because of that you’ve let yourself become as wicked as them.
That is sad, but one day you will heal and your heart will know peace. I know I was in the same boat. I’m still not a Christian, but I don’t hold disdain for them anymore.
Those ‘horrible people’ were all Christians lol. Have you read that awful book they love so much?
Dashing babies’ heads against rocks is great! Slaves are a-okay! Give your daughters to a mob to be raped so your guests aren’t bothered! Oh, and genocide is awesome too.
It’s a terrible religion that somehow occasionally makes decent people. Jesus had some good ideas, but they do their best to ignore as many of them as they can.
Because you cherry picking the worst parts and ignoring historical context and allegory is totally different from when fundies cherry picking the worst parts and ignoring historical context and allegory.
Oh good lord, here come the False Equivalency Patrol 🤦
Naw, this is correct equivilance. Intolerance cannot be tolerated
Intolerance of… a hateful belief that most of them choose. And one that the one’s who don’t choose (children) are forced into? That intolerance? idk seems like it’d be fine to be intolerant of hate
My friend, the core concept of Christianity is to do charitable actions in the name of Christ, how is that hateful?
Have some horrible people perverted that core concept to justify horrible things? Yes, but I can say the same about literally any ideology.
If that is what Christianity actually brought to the world, then we wouldn’t be in this position. They pay lip service to it. Nothing more. Fuck them all.
The very founders of the Catholic church corrupted that goal.
The people who truly do care about others are amazing, but that is not the majority of Christians, especially when it comes to how they feel about queer people. That is what I mean when I say Christianity.
I apologize for not making that clearer I was on a time crunch /gen
Bro, do you even know what a Catholic is?
And the award for “Purposefully Missing the Point” goes to, drum roll please… 🥁🥁🥁
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The intent is the extermination of an entire people through violence, intimidation, repression, etc.
It’s Genocide
Your definition is inaccurate to the point of not making sense.
To be clear, I am not defending them, but the people carrying out these attacks don’t see being trans as an inherent part of the person.
By the definition of “genocide” you gave, wanting to eliminate (for example) illiteracy would involve genocide against illiterate people; it’s one heck of a jump.
There’s a substantial gap between “get rid of the thing we see as helping cause this” and “kill everyone affected by this.”
The outrage has already been manufactured. There’s no stopping the kids now.
You’re comparing a religion to not knowing how to read?
No, I’m comparing word usage and was clarifying why the statement was inaccurate.
And in doing so, your go-to example was comparing a Religion to Illiteracy, implying Religion in and of itself is a mental defect…
Ya know who believed Religion was a mental defect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
I know I just broke Godwin’s law, but… Jesus
What? This reads as nonsense to me, apologies.
I didn’t comment on religion, and the illiteracy aspect was completely irrelevant to what I stated. It was purely an example.
I think you misread what I said quite severely.
They misread what you said intentionally.