So, I can understand wanting to live alone in the middle of nowhere and not being bothered by anyone else. I got no problem with off-the-grid mountain men, but signing up for multiple credit cards, and spending that money with NO intention of paying any of it back, is just straight up theft.
How can these goons expect to take whatever they want without contributing anything at all?
Half of the Lemmy users continually talk about how they never want to work for a minute while still being able to eat, sleep, and play games and smoke weed all day.
The main difference between most of the folks you reference is that they are wishing for something even if they don’t know a reasonable way to get there. Sometimes what they describe they think to be realistic is in fact not realistic, but they are wishing and hoping but generally living in reality according to the rules while they do so.
Versus outright trying to rip off others to “achieve” that goal, making up your own money, declaring yourself actually immune to all inconvenient laws.
The only reason I’m hesitant to call it theft is because those giant credit companies make money off of their loan shark cards
Edit: Oh boy, I made a hot take! Theft assumes that a person had a right to something to begin with. Shoplifting from Walmart is morally acceptable, it’s cool to make credit cards with an alias and not pay it back, and all cops are bastards. Just don’t expect to get away without consequences.
How is one action related to the other? This isn’t some Robin Hood type of person stealing from the big bad corporation to feed other people. It’s just a fraudster who somehow thinks they are entitled to this money.
Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reason. It’s based and cool to fuck over a credit company. The problem is that sovcit believe they can participate in the system and be absolved of consequences, and because they don’t understand anything about modern sociopolitical trends they often do a bunch of stupid shit like trying to pay their loans with “coupons”.
Yeah, the sovcit isn’t being based and cool fucking over the credit company. The credit company shrugs, does everything they can to ruin the sovcit financial standing in response, and then proceeds to just grab a bit more cash from the other cardholders to cover any losses. The credit company will make sure it is whole either way.
It’s not so much about white knighting for the multibillion dollar company. It’s recognizing that any cash the sovcit manages to make multibillion dollar company lose will just have that company pull it out of the pockets of the people that do pay their bills. So trying to claim that sovcit has any vaguely moral high ground in sticking it to those credit card companies is ridiculous.
It’s recognizing that any cash the sovcit manages to make multibillion dollar company lose will just have that company pull it out of the pockets of the people that do pay their bills.
This relies on the assumption that credit card companies are not already extracting as much value as they can from those bill payers. If they thought they could get away with raising rates on people without turning enough away to make it a net loss, it seems to me that they would have already.
So, I can understand wanting to live alone in the middle of nowhere and not being bothered by anyone else. I got no problem with off-the-grid mountain men, but signing up for multiple credit cards, and spending that money with NO intention of paying any of it back, is just straight up theft.
How can these goons expect to take whatever they want without contributing anything at all?
Yes, the mind of the sovcit is well-nigh impenetrable to those of us who suffer from reasonableness.
TL;DR: they cray
Preach it.
Half of the Lemmy users continually talk about how they never want to work for a minute while still being able to eat, sleep, and play games and smoke weed all day.
You tell me if you figure it out, please
I mean, don’t you want to not have to work?
“These jackasses over here seem to want to live their lives happier, healthier, and carefree like some utopia or something. Dummies, amirite?”
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone on Lemmy say that
A red herring doesn’t need to exist to use it as a distraction.
The main difference between most of the folks you reference is that they are wishing for something even if they don’t know a reasonable way to get there. Sometimes what they describe they think to be realistic is in fact not realistic, but they are wishing and hoping but generally living in reality according to the rules while they do so.
Versus outright trying to rip off others to “achieve” that goal, making up your own money, declaring yourself actually immune to all inconvenient laws.
The only reason I’m hesitant to call it theft is because those giant credit companies make money off of their loan shark cards
Edit: Oh boy, I made a hot take! Theft assumes that a person had a right to something to begin with. Shoplifting from Walmart is morally acceptable, it’s cool to make credit cards with an alias and not pay it back, and all cops are bastards. Just don’t expect to get away without consequences.
How is one action related to the other? This isn’t some Robin Hood type of person stealing from the big bad corporation to feed other people. It’s just a fraudster who somehow thinks they are entitled to this money.
Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reason. It’s based and cool to fuck over a credit company. The problem is that sovcit believe they can participate in the system and be absolved of consequences, and because they don’t understand anything about modern sociopolitical trends they often do a bunch of stupid shit like trying to pay their loans with “coupons”.
Yeah, the sovcit isn’t being based and cool fucking over the credit company. The credit company shrugs, does everything they can to ruin the sovcit financial standing in response, and then proceeds to just grab a bit more cash from the other cardholders to cover any losses. The credit company will make sure it is whole either way.
I mean, it legally IS theft, well, fraud technically. The company 100% deserving it doesn’t change that fact lol.
I get you. I have no love for those banks, but the surprised Pikachu face on Sovcits when the magic coupon doesn’t work is just embarrassing.
Tbf, it’s also hilarious! Every time they can’t get away with their libertarian nonsense, I get a little happier
It’s not so much about white knighting for the multibillion dollar company. It’s recognizing that any cash the sovcit manages to make multibillion dollar company lose will just have that company pull it out of the pockets of the people that do pay their bills. So trying to claim that sovcit has any vaguely moral high ground in sticking it to those credit card companies is ridiculous.
This relies on the assumption that credit card companies are not already extracting as much value as they can from those bill payers. If they thought they could get away with raising rates on people without turning enough away to make it a net loss, it seems to me that they would have already.