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    110 months ago

    So in that scenario we can produce infinite steaks, right?

    Now, people start stealing those steaks because we can produce an infinite amount of them, infinite supply = cost should be zero.

    Now, tell me… What’s the incentive for the steak producer to continue producing those steaks if people aren’t paying for them?

    See where I’m going with that?

    In the end of doesn’t matter if an infinite quantity can be produced “for free”, there’s people behind the product that pay the price and no matter how you want to justify it, if you don’t respect the way the creator wants to give access to their product to people, you have no moral ground to stand on.

    I’m not saying people don’t do it, I’m saying that trying to justify it to make you feel better about it is pure hypocrisy and just wrong.

    • @Cryophilia
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      110 months ago

      That’s objectively untrue due to the case study of what’s actually happening in real life though. You CAN steal as many steaks as you want, and people ARE paying, at least for the good ones. Enough to fund giant companies that produce more steaks.

      if you don’t respect the way the creator wants to give access to their product to people, you have no moral ground to stand on.

      Sometimes the creator is wrong. Monopolies are wrong. Slave labor is wrong. Massive environmental externalities are wrong. In many cases, these things are not illegal, but they should be. Same goes for restrictions on purchases of digital media. It’s wrong, and we shouldn’t respect it. That’s the moral high ground.

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        “Slave labor is wrong” says the guy who doesn’t want to pay for the labor of the people providing him with content.

        If you don’t agree with the way it’s distributed then skip it entirely, that’s the only way you’ve got the moral high ground.

        • @Cryophilia
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          010 months ago

          “Slave labor is wrong” says the guy who doesn’t want to pay for the labor of the people providing him with content.

          Are they providing me with content though? When that media inevitably becomes unusable due to their policies, do I get a refund? Historically, no.

          Which is, by the way, not legal, so producers have neither the moral nor the legal high ground if you think about it. They do have better lawyers though.

          • @[email protected]
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            110 months ago

            Are they providing me with content though?

            I don’t know what you’re pirating if it’s not content created by other people

            • @Cryophilia
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              010 months ago

              And hence, you discover the point of the meme. Full circle. I love it.

              • @[email protected]
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                110 months ago

                I don’t think you understand what I meant…

                People create what you’re pirating, the games, music, movies that you’re illegally downloading have been created by people who need to make a living.

                • @Cryophilia
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                  110 months ago

                  But are they providing that to me in exchange for payment. Arguably, no. That’s the point of the meme.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    110 months ago

                    They are offering it and if you disagree with the way it’s being offered to you, you’re not entitled to procure it through other means.