• @TheGrandNagus
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    11 months ago

    Ok. I’m not really interested in how things were in 2008. I’m interested in the here and now, which is where Wayland is widely used and increasingly used by the day, Nvidia’s drivers are a mess and AMD’s aren’t.

    Person A: Man these Nvidia drivers keep causing issues

    Person B: Umm ackshully Nvidia drivers used to be better than ATI drivers in 2008 ☝️🤓

    • @michaelmrose
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      211 months ago

      Nvidia drivers continue to work great under X 2003-2024 for me. I’m sure Nvidia will work well under Wayland long before I bother to switch. The same folks who are always shitting on Nvidia seem to all own AMD hardware and many have spent years lying about Wayland being totally ready in 2015-2022 after they spent years lying about AMD GPU drivers being great in 2008-2013 when both were largely unusable in that time frame. Since few of the haters actually own any Nvidia hardware I presume they get their information from stroking each-others ego on reddit/lemmy/mastodon.

      • @TheGrandNagus
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        211 months ago

        Yeah but X11 is unsuitable for modern computing.

        The same folks who are always shitting on Nvidia seem to all own AMD hardware

        Many do… because they know Nvidia is plagued with issues. Why would they buy hardware they’ve had/will have issues with?

        I had to get rid of my 1080 Ti because of how unusably bad the Linux drivers were. AMD has ran great, out of the box, on X11 and Wayland. Wayland has been great, used it for years with no issues outside of with Nvidia hardware.

        Maybe when Nvidia gets their shit together and have drivers that work properly ill give them another go.

        • @michaelmrose
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          111 months ago

          I have a 1080. The drivers are great under X. I’ve been using nvidia hardware since 2003. Driver support has always been pretty good.

          • @TheGrandNagus
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            111 months ago

            But their driver support isn’t good, as is widely reported.

            Even by the guy who literally created the kernel.

            • @michaelmrose
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              111 months ago

              Linus didn’t say they didn’t work he doesn’t like their failure to play nice with others. You can’t use that cop out.

              • @TheGrandNagus
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                111 months ago

                Maintaining good Linux drivers for something like a graphics card very much requires work with others.

                It’s a big reason for why Nvidia’s drivers are pretty crappy.

                Calling it a cop out sounds like major cope. Nvidia drivers on Linux are crappy. There’s a reason everybody complains about them.

                • @michaelmrose
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                  011 months ago

                  Nvidia’s drivers for X have always been very good. Their drivers for wayland will be good before Wayland is

                  • @TheGrandNagus
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                    10 months ago

                    Wayland has been good for years.

                    Nvidia needs to fix their trash drivers, they’re complete dog shit.