School shootings don’t happen anywhere near weekly in the US. They are a freak event as I showed already. Other countries also have freak violent events that don’t happen in the US. For example, acid attacks, car bombings, sword attacks, and so on.
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
Maybe you should reconsider why you struggle to believe that school shootings are actually extremely rare freak events. It’s likely because the media sensationalizes them and acts like they are a much larger problem than they really are in order to promote gun control.
“You’re more likely to be killed by a hippo in Africa than you are by a school shooting in the US”.
The comparison is made up because it’s convenient. They might as well have compared school shootings to worldwide hippopotamus attacks (~500 year), it’s every bit as pointless.
No, it’s not pointless. The point is that no one is demanding my rights be infringed because of hippo attacks. I don’t get a breaking news alert when a hippo kills someone. School shootings are promoted by the media when in reality they should be treated like any other violent crime which is to say reported on but not in a sensationalized way to push a political agenda.
Yeah yeah yeah, I get it. You’re fine with the death and suffering so you can enjoy your guns. You don’t want to hear about those people being killed either. You want to be sheltered from the consequences of your hobby.
The right to self defense is not a hobby and many lives are saved by firearms. The majority of gun violence is due to gang activity. Why don’t I hear politicians or people on social media like you decrying the problems of gangs? It seems there is a concerted effort to ignore the root of the problem and instead hyper focus on taking away guns. Have you ever seen a breaking news event when a gang member kills a child? I don’t remember the President speaking out on those ones. Why not? Why don’t I see Democrats or the President speaking out on gangs and trying to enact legislation to put an end to the organized crime that is behind most firearm deaths?
Uhm, gangs killing people is certainly already very much illegal?..how do you plan to dissolve the problem at its root by legislation, exactly?
And how many lives are saved by guns vs taken away by said guns? There’s a reason almost every single country on planet Earth has decided to outlaw firearms for self-defence.
If we want to reduce violence and save lives, we not only need to work with the problem at its core - it’s essential, but not enough and doesn’t deliver the results you dream of - we should also remove the means by which said violence is executed as much as possible to curb violence now.
Your “right to self-defense” is paid by lives of people who were shot with legally purchased guns in a criminal attack. Everyone carrying guns, overall, does not make country safer, which is a thing just about everyone realized like almost a century ago.
That is counting any death that occurred on any kind of school property including universities. The school shooting concept is heavily promoted by the media and that is why people think it is an out of control problem when in reality, like I said, more people die of lightning strikes. The comments here show the hysteria. A vanishingly small number of people are killed in school shootings. People commonly refer to winning to lottery as being less likely than being struck by lightning. It is a common phrase to demonstrate an extremely unlikely event.
The question people should be asking is why the media is hyper focused on promoting these. There would likely be even less school shootings if the media wasn’t essentially promoting them to mentally ill people as a way to act out and get attention. Many psychologists have stated this, that the attention, the “breaking news event”, the round the clock coverage, the attention reaching the levels of the President if someone shoots people on a school campus is actually what causes people to commit those acts. They want a platform and the media gives it to them because ultimately they want to promote gun control and as you see it works quite well to that end.
I’ve seen this BS statement popping up on gun sites. Just another bullshit comparison made up to minimize a problem. Funny how they limit it just to schools as an arbitrary limit while ignoring things like workplace shootings or terrorist attacks like the shooters at concerts or clubs.
All shootings of uninvolved, random people.
And the principle of the comparison is stupid. You go out to play golf knowing there is bad weather and elect not to take suitable shelter vs a teacher in a location that should never see violence. E: more apt comparison: how many people are killed in school classrooms by lightning? That’s how absurd it is.
Hey, there were thunderstorms in my classrooms when I was a kid. Stop picking on this piece of shit apologist. I was struck by lightning twelve times and have yet to be shot. Asshole’s logic checks out.
The original post was about schools, was it not? The media is hyper focused on schools because of the emotional aspect they can exploit to promote gun control. If they had to look outside of schools you could easily demonstrate that most shooting deaths are due to gang violence. The media doesn’t want to talk about gang violence which is an actually solvable problem and involves already illegal activity. They only want to talk about taking away people’s right to bear arms.
Yeah, we’ve already covered that you don’t like hearing about the consequences of your hobby, keep it up and I’ll call you a “snowflake”.
No, most deaths by gun are suicides. Nearly 60%. Gang homocide only accounts for ~30% of gun deaths. The rest are non-gang, police, accident, or defense.
Media doesn’t want to talk about gang violence? Don’t know what planet you’re on, but local news always mentions whether or not the shooting was likely gang related.
I’m tired of this conversation. You plainly are willing to sacrifice anyone else or butwhatabout any other subject in order to avoid dealing with the reality of guns in this country. IDGAF about your “right” when you treat it irresponsibly enough that infringes on others’ right to life. And I say that as a gun owner. You sick guns-at-any-price morons have done more to destroy a fun pastime than anything I can imagine.
Sure, I was talking about homicide, suicide is typically treated as a different problem. Most gun homicides are gang related. The media reports on gang violence but they don’t fixate on it and demand solutions. There is clearly a demonstrable difference which is the point.
You’re making a lot of assumptions about me. I’m merely pointing out that school shootings are very rare events and that the media does a lot to promote them.
Lightning striking people is not one of the “most common” acts of nature. It is a freak event and that is the point of comparing the statistics. To try to get people like you to accept that you’re obsessing over a vanishingly small issue by letting the media convince you it is a regular occurrence impacting everyone. Again there are 330 million people in the US and less than a couple dozen die per year in school shootings. The media could sensationalize pool drownings, people choking on pens, or any other number of things but they choose to promote school shootings in order to promote gun control.
How many people choke to death on pens every year? “On average, 100 to 4000 people choke to death on ball-point pens every year”
You’re letting the media trick you and there is a reason powerful interests like the corporate media want you focused on getting rid of people’s right to bear arms.
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Lol bro only country where school shootings happens as frequently as weekly is the U.S.A.
School shootings don’t happen anywhere near weekly in the US. They are a freak event as I showed already. Other countries also have freak violent events that don’t happen in the US. For example, acid attacks, car bombings, sword attacks, and so on.
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
Where do you get your numbers?
CDC states about 28 deaths per year by lightning strike. https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata/infographic.html
22 deaths can be attributed to the shooting in Uvalde alone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
“There’s been an on-campus shooting ‘pretty much every single school day’ this fall, the founder of the K-12 School Shooting Database said.” https://www.k12dive.com/news/2022-worst-year-for-school-shootings/639313/
Probably the numbers are right from the NRA? /s
You don’t need to use /s here
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
444 over 15 years is 29 a year
https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata.html
Maybe you should reconsider why you struggle to believe that school shootings are actually extremely rare freak events. It’s likely because the media sensationalizes them and acts like they are a much larger problem than they really are in order to promote gun control.
“You’re more likely to be killed by a hippo in Africa than you are by a school shooting in the US”.
The comparison is made up because it’s convenient. They might as well have compared school shootings to worldwide hippopotamus attacks (~500 year), it’s every bit as pointless.
No, it’s not pointless. The point is that no one is demanding my rights be infringed because of hippo attacks. I don’t get a breaking news alert when a hippo kills someone. School shootings are promoted by the media when in reality they should be treated like any other violent crime which is to say reported on but not in a sensationalized way to push a political agenda.
Yeah yeah yeah, I get it. You’re fine with the death and suffering so you can enjoy your guns. You don’t want to hear about those people being killed either. You want to be sheltered from the consequences of your hobby.
The right to self defense is not a hobby and many lives are saved by firearms. The majority of gun violence is due to gang activity. Why don’t I hear politicians or people on social media like you decrying the problems of gangs? It seems there is a concerted effort to ignore the root of the problem and instead hyper focus on taking away guns. Have you ever seen a breaking news event when a gang member kills a child? I don’t remember the President speaking out on those ones. Why not? Why don’t I see Democrats or the President speaking out on gangs and trying to enact legislation to put an end to the organized crime that is behind most firearm deaths?
Uhm, gangs killing people is certainly already very much illegal?..how do you plan to dissolve the problem at its root by legislation, exactly?
And how many lives are saved by guns vs taken away by said guns? There’s a reason almost every single country on planet Earth has decided to outlaw firearms for self-defence.
If we want to reduce violence and save lives, we not only need to work with the problem at its core - it’s essential, but not enough and doesn’t deliver the results you dream of - we should also remove the means by which said violence is executed as much as possible to curb violence now.
Your “right to self-defense” is paid by lives of people who were shot with legally purchased guns in a criminal attack. Everyone carrying guns, overall, does not make country safer, which is a thing just about everyone realized like almost a century ago.
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
That is counting any death that occurred on any kind of school property including universities. The school shooting concept is heavily promoted by the media and that is why people think it is an out of control problem when in reality, like I said, more people die of lightning strikes. The comments here show the hysteria. A vanishingly small number of people are killed in school shootings. People commonly refer to winning to lottery as being less likely than being struck by lightning. It is a common phrase to demonstrate an extremely unlikely event.
The question people should be asking is why the media is hyper focused on promoting these. There would likely be even less school shootings if the media wasn’t essentially promoting them to mentally ill people as a way to act out and get attention. Many psychologists have stated this, that the attention, the “breaking news event”, the round the clock coverage, the attention reaching the levels of the President if someone shoots people on a school campus is actually what causes people to commit those acts. They want a platform and the media gives it to them because ultimately they want to promote gun control and as you see it works quite well to that end.
I’ve seen this BS statement popping up on gun sites. Just another bullshit comparison made up to minimize a problem. Funny how they limit it just to schools as an arbitrary limit while ignoring things like workplace shootings or terrorist attacks like the shooters at concerts or clubs.
All shootings of uninvolved, random people.
And the principle of the comparison is stupid. You go out to play golf knowing there is bad weather and elect not to take suitable shelter vs a teacher in a location that should never see violence. E: more apt comparison: how many people are killed in school classrooms by lightning? That’s how absurd it is.
Hey, there were thunderstorms in my classrooms when I was a kid. Stop picking on this piece of shit apologist. I was struck by lightning twelve times and have yet to be shot. Asshole’s logic checks out.
Look at their username. They are just a sad pathetic little right wing troll.
The original post was about schools, was it not? The media is hyper focused on schools because of the emotional aspect they can exploit to promote gun control. If they had to look outside of schools you could easily demonstrate that most shooting deaths are due to gang violence. The media doesn’t want to talk about gang violence which is an actually solvable problem and involves already illegal activity. They only want to talk about taking away people’s right to bear arms.
Yeah, we’ve already covered that you don’t like hearing about the consequences of your hobby, keep it up and I’ll call you a “snowflake”.
No, most deaths by gun are suicides. Nearly 60%. Gang homocide only accounts for ~30% of gun deaths. The rest are non-gang, police, accident, or defense.
Media doesn’t want to talk about gang violence? Don’t know what planet you’re on, but local news always mentions whether or not the shooting was likely gang related.
I’m tired of this conversation. You plainly are willing to sacrifice anyone else or butwhatabout any other subject in order to avoid dealing with the reality of guns in this country. IDGAF about your “right” when you treat it irresponsibly enough that infringes on others’ right to life. And I say that as a gun owner. You sick guns-at-any-price morons have done more to destroy a fun pastime than anything I can imagine.
Sure, I was talking about homicide, suicide is typically treated as a different problem. Most gun homicides are gang related. The media reports on gang violence but they don’t fixate on it and demand solutions. There is clearly a demonstrable difference which is the point.
You’re making a lot of assumptions about me. I’m merely pointing out that school shootings are very rare events and that the media does a lot to promote them.
Speaking of gang violence, don’t you think it is exacerbated by having guns readily available?
No. Gangs kills each other however they can, having firearms makes no difference. They might resort to things like explosive which are more damaging.
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Lightning striking people is not one of the “most common” acts of nature. It is a freak event and that is the point of comparing the statistics. To try to get people like you to accept that you’re obsessing over a vanishingly small issue by letting the media convince you it is a regular occurrence impacting everyone. Again there are 330 million people in the US and less than a couple dozen die per year in school shootings. The media could sensationalize pool drownings, people choking on pens, or any other number of things but they choose to promote school shootings in order to promote gun control.
How many people choke to death on pens every year? “On average, 100 to 4000 people choke to death on ball-point pens every year”
You’re letting the media trick you and there is a reason powerful interests like the corporate media want you focused on getting rid of people’s right to bear arms.
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