LGB are about sexuality, T is about identity. It’s not “looping themselves in”, it’s Intersectionality among people who suffer from simmiliar types of discrimination. We have always existed and were present at stonewall just like lesbian, gay and bi folk.

The average person has no idea what transition is actually like, which is partly from us having to hide for so long and because of media repsentation showing wildly skewed pictures. It’s common to think that transition starts with “the operation” but that’s the farthest thing from reality, especially since that isn’t even a option until a year plus on HRT, several letters from psychologist and a multi year waiting list. SRS, sex reassignment surgery, if anything would be the last step in transition.

So I’m not entirely sure genitals have nothing to do with it.

Literally nothing. I can be sympayhic if you haven’t heard this infromation before and are unsure about it, nothing wrong with being ignorant if you are willing to learn. Just please understand this is a very foundational truth and not something up for debate. I don’t know if your intent is to be transphobic but what you are saying deeply is.

Consider the terms gender and sex, often used synonymously but they do indeed mean different things. Sex being your physical characteristics and gender being how you interact with society and other humans. Which is why people born with both characteristics are interSEX, not interGENDER. Genitals have absolutely nothing to do with who you are as a person and how it is comfortable to move around the world. Many people have their sex match their gender, but many do not. Which is why trans people exist!

A trans woman who lives in Saudi Arabia is no less a woman that one who lives elsewhere and can do the process of transition,the first literally runs the risk of death. Just like a gay man is no less gay in the same culture. Nothing, absolutely nothing is gained from gatekeeping surgeries as a requirement of a valid identity.

To say genitals matter to gender is to invalidate the vast majority of trans folk behind an expensive and invasive procedure that not everyone can safely undertake. Please rethink what you are saying.

Contra has an excellent video on this “Are traps gay?”