I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.
Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.
The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as “we’ll just handle it”) plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.
Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.
I feel like many people here are literally unreasonable. Any person with any faith at all is an idiot, all enlightened atheists are superior… FuckCars seems to be leaking and anyone who has to drive for their job is hated on… Linux is the only option, you should never, ever use Windows for anything… etc…
Like, not everything is black and white! The real world is shades of grey and often requires compromise. But the loudest voices here seem to be extremists that slap down any comment that isn’t 100% what they believe in. It’s exhausting…
I mean, to be fair, it is the internet.
a large portion of people on it are, in fact, idiots.
Thats the price we paid when the internet went from a nerd toy in the mid/late 90s, to essential utility in the aughts.
As a nerd who was on the internet in the 90s I can assure you that was no filter against idiots.
Of course. But they werent screaming about wayfare trafficing children for adrenochrome to liberal democrat pizza basements.
Their stupidity wasnt a threat to society. They were just, for the most part, honest dumb. and they were no where near as numerous as today.
Damn, you got me :(
internet, honestly, took a turn for the worse when social media came about and started game-ifying human interaction with dopamine driven addiction mechanisms like Likes and up/down votes. Which I blame for the starting us down the path of polarization… And not just polarization, but the encouragement of awful behavior in general, Like what you frequently hear about with tiktok “trends”.
Which is why I think the best thing that the internet can do is get the fuck rid of gamification mechanisms like up/down votes.
I agree. I miss the olden days… Forums and static pages with gifs and shit. The golden era. Corps didn’t know much about it and piracy was rampant, information flowed freely.
found new shit via others suggestions, or web rings, cause there was no search engines.
guest books, animated gifs, page hit counters… ah fuck now i’m all sad and nostalgic
I nearly forgot about web rings and guest books. Actually there’s still a comment I made on a webpage that is still active from like 1996
oh man, and geocities and angelfire and aol/irc chat rooms…
fuck I miss those days.
This was my favourite era of internet. The wild wild west.
Lemmy is the other side of the same coin as reddit unfortunately. Im part of the problem myself, its hard not to vent here sometimes even though it is inappropriate.
Absolutely. At work I man a tech desk for a big box store (aka helping people who don’t or can’t understand what email is activate phones), and at home I share responsibility caring for two people who don’t have the mental capacity to shut the refrigerator door when they’re done finding food. That’s…a bigger can of worms than what we’re talking about here, but encountering open-and-shut thoughts on how things ought to be (on here) feels like whiplash compared to how I usually have to think through my actions in a day.
This. I’ve come across more than a few posts discussing solutions to various problems. Said solutions are shallower than a wading pool. Playing devil’s advocate and poking and prodding to invoke some critical thinking is met with downvotes and derision.
It just ain’t worth it.
Maybe try [email protected] ? It’s more laid back and nuanced
Thanks, I genuinely appreciate the suggestion! I know that’s how some browse, but not me. I look at what’s in my feed and comment on it. I don’t care if it’s [email protected] or [email protected].
Don’t you think this is kind of a black and white characterization? 😋
I think this is a problem with online social interactions everywhere. Maybe it stems from the lack of empathy people feel for the faceless internet strangers we are interacting with. It remains to be seen whether a large online community can be built around more positive kinds of interactions. If it exists, I have not found it yet.