• Drusas
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    -2210 months ago

    Considering how so many motorcyclists drive, and the fact that the parents forgave the student, I’m going to guess that what really happened is that the motorcyclist killed himself by driving recklessly.

    • @[email protected]
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      710 months ago

      That’s a massive and unnecessary assumption. We have no real information, so let’s not act like we do.

      • Drusas
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        -610 months ago

        Sounds like you’ve never driven on a highway where there have been motorcycles present. Or you are a motorcyclist who doesn’t like to acknowledge that many of your fellow riders don’t follow traffic laws very well.

        • @[email protected]
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          610 months ago

          Believe me, I am very aware of how many motorcyclists drive recklessly. My point is that we do not have enough information to really determine anything. I’m not going to just assume that based on what I’ve seen some other people do, especially when I have absolutely nothing to gain by doing so.

          • Drusas
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            -410 months ago

            That’s fair. But I did say it was just a guess based on anecdotal experience.

    • Ephera
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      -2010 months ago

      I mean, consider the counter shit take: That motorcyclist could be driving much more recklessly without being in so much danger, if other people didn’t drive around with mobile walls at 100 km/h…

      You’re arbitrarily assuming it to be a given, that dangerous cars are on the street, and shifting the blame to the person who is, quite by definition, the victim here.

      • volvoxvsmarla
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        1010 months ago

        Guys, guys. You’re both right. Motorcyclists are suicidal and cars are shit. Both can be true at the same time.

        • @[email protected]
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          210 months ago

          Motorcyclists are the only road goers that have tried passing my on the side I am signalling to turn on more than one occasion. Maybe because literally nobody else here signals they don’t know what it means.

      • Drusas
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        -410 months ago

        I’m not making any arbitrary assumptions. I’m making educated guesses based on what I see on the highways near me.

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          010 months ago

          You’re not wrong, but reddit Lemmy says that donorcyclists can do no wrong.

        • Ephera
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          -910 months ago

          What I meant with that, is that you’re treating those cars as if they’re there by law of nature. That no person made a conscious decision to drive them. In an accident between a motorcyclist and a car driver, maybe the motorcyclist didn’t heed the necessary caution while driving between objects that could kill, but the car driver decided to put a deadly object on the street. I really do not care to assign blame, which is why I prefixed all of this as being a shit take, but assigning blame to the mororcyclist is just terrible, even if it is done all too commonly.

          • Drusas
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            10 months ago

            No, I’m really not. It’s all about being intelligent and safe/defensive when you’re driving or walking or biking or whatever else around vehicles of any kind. They’re dangerous and you shouldn’t be exacerbating it by lane splitting and speeding the way I see so many motorcyclists do all the time.