Skiff users received the following email

Skiff × Notion

Dear Skiff Community,

We are excited to share that Skiff is joining Notion.

Skiff’s mission is to bring freedom to the internet by helping people collaborate and communicate with freedom and privacy. We see a deep alignment with Notion’s vision to build a connected workspace and enable everyone to build tools that reflect their values.

We’re extremely excited to accelerate our mission by joining forces with Notion’s world-class team. We sincerely hope that the Skiff community will join us for this next stage of our journey. We’re pursuing big plans for making all of our online lives freer and more empowered, and these plans will carry forward directly the ambitions we’ve strived for alongside the Skiff community.

As we begin to shift focus to our shared efforts with Notion, we will be closing down Skiff’s product suite after a 6-month sunset period We are deeply appreciative of the trust users have extended to us, and we are committed to honoring that trust by ensuring that all data on Skiff is easily exportable. For the next 6 months, Skiff services will continue to operate without disruption, and users can freely duplicate, migrate, or export data. You can now also set up a forwarding address to redirect mail to any other provider.

Our commitment to privacy and security is unchanged. All user data remains end-to-end encrypted, and Skiff products will never monetize your data. Accounts and data on Skiff will not be converted into Notion accounts.

We encourage you to export your data and migrate custom domains within the next 6 months. We’ve prepared this guide to make that process as easy as possible. For any other questions, our support team is readily available via the in-app “Send feedback” option or at [email protected].

The Skiff community has lifted, inspired, and energized us at every step. We are humbled by your support and we apologize for any disappointment or inconvenience this change may cause you. We remain as committed as ever to bringing about the vision for a better internet that brought us together. Thank you for being part of the Skiff family, and we look forward to continuing to serve you with our future efforts.

Sincerely, Skiff Team

  • Daniel
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    2011 months ago

    I have been a long-time Notion user and really love Skiff. But, my trust in Notion has really been shaken after they added AI. I’m not sure what to do right now. :\

      • Daniel
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        411 months ago

        I might take a break from these encrypted ones, I’m thinking about trying to find a plain old IMAP/POP provider.

        • lemmyreader
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          611 months ago

          I don’t think the encryption for Skiff, Tuta and Proton did add any real and important value for most users. Posteo and mailbox.org with IMAP seems fine to me.

          • Daniel
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            211 months ago

            I’m gonna start comparing all my options today or tomorrow. Thanks a bunch for you help, I hadn’t seen that thread before! I also hadn’t seen Posteo yet, but it looks pretty good.

        • Dark Arc
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          I mean, Proton Mail has been around ages and if you pay them … really anything at all you get access to their bridge application. Which… That runs a local plain old IMAP server you can use as if it was any old IMAP email provider.

          All the encryption happens on the bridge side, your email client doesn’t need to worry about encryption keys or anything.

          • Daniel
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            311 months ago

            Honestly, I just need something that works and is standardized. Also, I just want email — I thought Proton had an email only plan, but they must’ve removed it or something. I have my own VPN, and don’t torrent or do other things that I need to hide from my ISP (who are pretty lazy anyway).

            Thanks for the information though! Cool that they have a way that you can still use the apps you want (that was my biggest problem with Skiff tbh).

      • @mint_tamas
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        211 months ago

        This link opens to a thread about email providers. Is this what you meant to post?

        • lemmyreader
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          111 months ago

          Yes, it has suggestions for you to move away from Skiff.

          • @mint_tamas
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            111 months ago

            Ah ok, I’ll take another look then. Thanks!

    • ???
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      What problems have you had with that AI? Or is it a privacy concern?

      EDIT: lol at the downvotes. Please, assholes, learn to recognize a normal question from a troll qustion.

      • Daniel
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        11 months ago

        My problem is with annoying advertisements within a productivity suite for something I don’t want.

        I would’ve been fine if all they did was add AI, but there seemed to be a new one every time I logged in.

        Edit: it is also kind a privacy thing.

        • @Myrbolg
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          310 months ago

          Yep, same thing for ClickUp, a competitor. Pretty much the only thing they talk about and seem to work on is AI, which comes at a high price and does not really add much benefit.

        • ???
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          110 months ago

          I found one feature somewhat useful though, using AI to summarize a page on a board or table. Haven’t used it otherwise.