You can use parsley as ‘bitter herbs,’ which is what we did. Not the most pleasant thing to eat, but not exactly unpalatable. I’ve heard of some people using celery. That feels like cheating.
I think that may be what the idea was, but they definitely meant just regular celery because the conversation, which had happened a couple of times with guests when I was a kid, was along the lines of “why are you using parsley? Celery is so much nicer!”
When they’re already encircling an entire region in wire to claim it’s a house, and also claiming some dude owns all the bread in a country, eating celery seems a bit of a step down in comparison
To be fair, you’re conflating Orthodox (or even Ultra-Orthodox) Jews and Reform Jews, which is kind of like conflating Mennonites (or Amish) to Methodists. Same religion, very different interpretations. The latter being much less medieval in their way of thinking.
“There are no Christian symbols on the walls,” Plaut said. “There’s no mixing of meat and dairy, and the pork that is evident is hidden. Hence the phrase ‘safe treyf.’ You can’t see it when you eat it so it’s ok.
People are weird. There was a break-off group from the temple in my town because they felt it was too progressive (not about social issues, about Reform Judaism) that my grandfather joined and then complain about them not having services on days when there was a ball game on. Like- “this temple is not religious enough, let’s form a more religious one… but only when baseball isn’t on.”
You can use parsley as ‘bitter herbs,’ which is what we did. Not the most pleasant thing to eat, but not exactly unpalatable. I’ve heard of some people using celery. That feels like cheating.
If fish isn’t meat to the Catholics then why shouldn’t celery be a bitter herb
Beaver, armadillo, alligator and capybara are all also fish according to the Catholic church.
https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/local/2023/02/20/whats-seafood-for-lent-alligator-beaver-and-armadillo-make-the-cut/69922902007/
So yeah, Jews definitely don’t have the monopoly on this stuff.
Celery leaves specifically would probably be what they meant. You can actually use them as a substitute for parsley in cooking!
I think that may be what the idea was, but they definitely meant just regular celery because the conversation, which had happened a couple of times with guests when I was a kid, was along the lines of “why are you using parsley? Celery is so much nicer!”
Isn’t the point to remember bitter times and tears?
Seems to defeat the purpose.
I do like that one joke/parable about the 4 rabbis arguing and god chiming in though.
Cracks me up
Jewish religious workarounds in a nutshell. Here’s two videos from the same dude on the scale of these… shenannigans :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPYp3lOOOrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgM0CzgnZsM
When they’re already encircling an entire region in wire to claim it’s a house, and also claiming some dude owns all the bread in a country, eating celery seems a bit of a step down in comparison
To be fair, you’re conflating Orthodox (or even Ultra-Orthodox) Jews and Reform Jews, which is kind of like conflating Mennonites (or Amish) to Methodists. Same religion, very different interpretations. The latter being much less medieval in their way of thinking.
Still no bacon though for most of them.
https://stljewishlight.org/news/world-news/why-do-jews-eat-chinese-food-on-christmas/
I remember the first time I saw my mom eating a BLT. My mind boggled.
But the rest of my family wouldn’t touch pork.
People are weird. There was a break-off group from the temple in my town because they felt it was too progressive (not about social issues, about Reform Judaism) that my grandfather joined and then complain about them not having services on days when there was a ball game on. Like- “this temple is not religious enough, let’s form a more religious one… but only when baseball isn’t on.”