• @assassin_aragorn
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    111 months ago

    Do you have any examples of a carrot or stick actually convincing a politician to change their mind? If that worked, you could just shame Republicans into getting 100-0 votes for everything.

    This is what’s ridiculous to me. You’re cynical and conspiratorial that there will always be controlled opposition, but you also think a bully pulpit and the right words will convince that opposition to support you.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      011 months ago

      Do you have any examples of a carrot or stick actually convincing a politician to change their mind?

      The Civil Rights Act was a big one.

      • @assassin_aragorn
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        111 months ago

        Could you elaborate? I’m genuinely interested in knowing more.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          010 months ago

          I mean, I don’t want to be snide but… there’s an ample backlog of historical material that gets into the details. Just pick up a book. Nick Kotz’s “Judgement Days” offers a deep dive. Chapter 17 of Howard Zinn’s “People’s HIstory” gives you the abbreviated version. There are plenty of others.

          From Johnson’s acerbic legislative style to the economic leverage applied by MLK’s boycotts and the militant organizing of Malcolm X’s radicals, historically intractable politicians were swayed with both the carrot of an enormous new activist constituency and the stick of strikes, shut-downs, and the President literally grabbing and twisting your ballsack because you failed to deliver him the votes.