And what genocide would that be? The one being committed by the Israelis?
The one he was documented as instructing his Secretary of State to evade congressional oversight to deliver US explosives.
Trump probably would. In his first term he was too incompetent to figure out how to.
Because trump is soooo pro-worker. He’d never do the same or worse /s
Remove “he is better than Trump” from your… extremely damaging contributions. I disavow both.
Why is Biden on equal levels to GWB here?
Because contrary to popular belief, GWB wasnt some complete unknowing doof. He was a co-author of the Plan for the New America Century. Which was some dystopian shit that basically, before the event, described what would happen after 9/11. And then he got the presidency and surprise surprise… 9/11 happened immediately after he got in office.
Kind of like how Biden has a long track record of laying down policy in regards to Israel, and he becomes President, and Israel is genociding and he has ALL of the funding lines and back-room loopholes to really just let them Palestinians have it.
You’re kinda glossing over the part where Donald Trump tried to literally end American democracy
Yes, Trump has usurped the RNC primary process this season. And Biden killed the DNC primary process this season.
Again, I hate and reject both.
Oh fucking spare me.
Youve made it clear. Your brain is incapable of understanding an order of operation beyond 1/0.
Shut the fuck up and develop some critical thinking skills.
This is low key a very important election. The DNC has signed in triplicate for WWIII and Dark Brandon just gave us a Homelander meme to let us know that is exactly what is going on.
Trump on the other hand really missing his Diet Coke button and wants to give more money to Texas and Florida.
Trump must be stopped. Biden must be stopped. RNC must be stopped. DNC must be stopped.
Stop shitting your pants over Biden like he MUST WIN.
You do realise there is such a thing as different levels of bad right?
Kinda like how video game piracy isn’t on the same level of murder?
See I never called Biden good. But ethically his record is a metric fuck ton cleaner than DJT or GWB.
Biden has done some bad things and I don’t agree with him on everything. But it’s some fucking hyperbole to put him up next to a warmonger and a seditious traitor and put them all as equals.
You did a great job undermining their rhetoric. To add, it’s important to dismantle their non-sequitur / logical-leap that is the oft-touted “Biden is responsible for Genocide in Gaza.” by wedge-drivers or people who drank the kool-aid.
Many of us are cognizant of humanitarian crisis there, and genocide does appear to be happening (I say that as no international body to my knowledge as formally concluded such). But to place that all on Biden doesn’t make sense, considering:
Regardless, October 7th, too was a massacre in which Israel had some right to respond. Not saying they responded correctly, but:
It only took 3 months for the most staunchest ally and greatest foreign aid supplier to go from lockstep support to saying Israel is “Indiscriminately bombing” the people of Gaza as facts on the ground became established.
There are massive ramifications to pushing back on the Zionist state that has a routine habit of having campaigns of public shaming and misconstruing actions critical of their far-right nationalist government as being anti-Semitic. If one thinks the Russian IRA troll farm is bad, just wait. Especially when Republicans are ready to happily amplify that rhetoric.
It was not Joe who ordered the bombs to be dropped, knowing the collateral damage that awaited. That rests squarely on Bibi’s shoulders.
You said the most important thing, which is that Trump would be an order-of-magnitude worse under these circumstances for the civilians of Gaza, and that should be more than enough for anyone logically thinking this through. Now Is it fair to put pressure on Biden to change course in supplying and supporting Israel? Sure, there’s a time and place insofar as that doesn’t enable Trump to win.
That’s an excellent breakdown on the ‘Biden is responsible for Israel’ fallacy. Israel is a separate nation with its own governance.
As you said, October 7th was a massacre. And while I agree that Israel had the right of response, I don’t think anybody could have reasonably predicted what that response would look like. It makes GWB’s response to 9/11 look measured and controlled by comparison; over 50,000 dead civilians in 5 months. That’s almost the same amount of civilian deaths in the Iraq war (according to Wikileaks) in it’s entirety, and that went on for 8 years.
What I do blame Biden for is the lack of political response up to this point. They obviously can’t do shit about weapons they already sent, but they could have easily done something about what they continue to send.
Realistically speaking I don’t think we could have gotten a Ukraine-esque response, but next to nothing, after it has become undoubtedly clear what’s happening over there is genocide?
You and what army? Since you’ll need a population larger than the army to make any difference here. The 2 parties have a lot of power, you see. You can opt out of the whole thing but that doesn’t really do anything unless you have a large enough group of people voting for the same exact third party voter.
No one here likes the 2 party system, but most of us realize that until we have a real uprising or groundswell support for someone who can win >50% of the vote, opting out of voting means throwing your right to actually making change in this country away - embracing slactivism.
The one he was documented as instructing his Secretary of State to evade congressional oversight to deliver US explosives.
Trump probably would. In his first term he was too incompetent to figure out how to.
Remove “he is better than Trump” from your… extremely damaging contributions. I disavow both.
Because contrary to popular belief, GWB wasnt some complete unknowing doof. He was a co-author of the Plan for the New America Century. Which was some dystopian shit that basically, before the event, described what would happen after 9/11. And then he got the presidency and surprise surprise… 9/11 happened immediately after he got in office.
Kind of like how Biden has a long track record of laying down policy in regards to Israel, and he becomes President, and Israel is genociding and he has ALL of the funding lines and back-room loopholes to really just let them Palestinians have it.
Yes, Trump has usurped the RNC primary process this season. And Biden killed the DNC primary process this season.
Again, I hate and reject both.
Youve made it clear. Your brain is incapable of understanding an order of operation beyond 1/0.
Shut the fuck up and develop some critical thinking skills.
This is low key a very important election. The DNC has signed in triplicate for WWIII and Dark Brandon just gave us a Homelander meme to let us know that is exactly what is going on.
Trump on the other hand really missing his Diet Coke button and wants to give more money to Texas and Florida.
Trump must be stopped. Biden must be stopped. RNC must be stopped. DNC must be stopped.
Stop shitting your pants over Biden like he MUST WIN.
He is also SUPER MEGA ULTRA BAD.
We must reject the 2 party system.
You do realise there is such a thing as different levels of bad right?
Kinda like how video game piracy isn’t on the same level of murder?
See I never called Biden good. But ethically his record is a metric fuck ton cleaner than DJT or GWB.
Biden has done some bad things and I don’t agree with him on everything. But it’s some fucking hyperbole to put him up next to a warmonger and a seditious traitor and put them all as equals.
I’m not addressing the rest of your nonsense because it is just that. Starting with the fact that New American Century was infact a conservative movement for the Republican party, made by William Kristol and Robert Kagan
So maybe take your own advice and:
Edit: Autocorrect fuckup in a name
You did a great job undermining their rhetoric. To add, it’s important to dismantle their non-sequitur / logical-leap that is the oft-touted “Biden is responsible for Genocide in Gaza.” by wedge-drivers or people who drank the kool-aid.
Many of us are cognizant of humanitarian crisis there, and genocide does appear to be happening (I say that as no international body to my knowledge as formally concluded such). But to place that all on Biden doesn’t make sense, considering:
You said the most important thing, which is that Trump would be an order-of-magnitude worse under these circumstances for the civilians of Gaza, and that should be more than enough for anyone logically thinking this through. Now Is it fair to put pressure on Biden to change course in supplying and supporting Israel? Sure, there’s a time and place insofar as that doesn’t enable Trump to win.
That’s an excellent breakdown on the ‘Biden is responsible for Israel’ fallacy. Israel is a separate nation with its own governance.
As you said, October 7th was a massacre. And while I agree that Israel had the right of response, I don’t think anybody could have reasonably predicted what that response would look like. It makes GWB’s response to 9/11 look measured and controlled by comparison; over 50,000 dead civilians in 5 months. That’s almost the same amount of civilian deaths in the Iraq war (according to Wikileaks) in it’s entirety, and that went on for 8 years.
What I do blame Biden for is the lack of political response up to this point. They obviously can’t do shit about weapons they already sent, but they could have easily done something about what they continue to send.
Realistically speaking I don’t think we could have gotten a Ukraine-esque response, but next to nothing, after it has become undoubtedly clear what’s happening over there is genocide?
Oh my lordy you’ve hit QAnon levels of delusion.
You and what army? Since you’ll need a population larger than the army to make any difference here. The 2 parties have a lot of power, you see. You can opt out of the whole thing but that doesn’t really do anything unless you have a large enough group of people voting for the same exact third party voter.
No one here likes the 2 party system, but most of us realize that until we have a real uprising or groundswell support for someone who can win >50% of the vote, opting out of voting means throwing your right to actually making change in this country away - embracing slactivism.