I love how it’s “the evil Republicans” doing all of this. Plenty of us are Democrats who think Taylor is incredibly hypocritical for not practicing exactly what she preaches. And least you forget, she’s a literal billionaire. That “1%” we point to as the worst contributors. And oh look, there she is, being just like the people she vilifies.
She’s a hypocrite plain and simple and the facade is starting to finally break. Her entire persona is manufactured by teams of publicists. She’s no different that the other billionaires, but she has you convinced she’s your best buddy.
… There was a whole thread here that got deleted where someone else was saying the exact same thing you are saying and I defended myself. If you re-read my comment, don’t add tone, don’t insinuate, de-prime yourself, it’s just me asking a question and adding context to the timeline. I don’t remember her ever being this big a part of the political conversation until after the “register to vote” thing. None of the old men at my work ever talked about her politically until after that. Yes these memes are about the current situation. My comment isn’t denying that. All it’s doing is asking a question about when she was on the political radar and pointing out when and how I noticed. Now I’m somehow a swifty defending her jet use because I recalled events? What in the world is going on in your life that causes you types to react like this and take it so personally? Is it because I used the R word and didn’t immediately follow it up with a D? Go outside!
think Taylor is incredibly hypocritical for not practicing exactly what she preaches
And I think this is genocidal propaganda and misogyny drafted by FOX news. Yeah that’s grossly exaggerated and over the top, but hear me out:
First of all she’s not very political. At least not as far as I can tell, her opinions are rather mild basic human decency level stuff, but I don’t know much about her. This to your charge that she “preaches”.
Second, society being what it is you CAN’T practice what you believe, because our economy is build a certain way. She can’t do her job without a private jet, so even though there is some valid criticism there you’d also have to put the emissions her business use creates on the concert goers or consumers. It goes on their CO2 budget no hers. She even bought CO2 offsets which are BS of course.
Third, she’s being singled out, possibly because she’s supposed to be this white madonna. It’s apparently true that she uses her jet for private and “frivolous” purposes. But with all the jet setting going on, it’s at least suspicious that people want her to be the symbol of all evil. Some very clever sociopaths crafted this strategy because she’s the perfect symbol for it.
Lastly, even if all the criticism of her was justified it’s a distraction from the monumental and systemic issues preventing any meaningful action on climate change: Land reform, veganism, election reform, wealth redistribution, redesigning how we live and work, patents preventing adoption of improvements, planned vs free economy. Those are topics that nobody wants you to talk about. So instead it’s advantageous to blame her.
Afaik this all started with FOX news bashing her jet and the joke was “why is CO2 bad FOX news?”. But it WORKED!!! They have successfully disseminated a conspiracy theory that 20% of voters believe now and memes like this are trending.
Sorry about the rant, I really don’t mean to accuse anyone seriously of this, but this is the PR mechanisms I see working behind this stuff.
But the CO2 emissions of a jet are absolutely negligible if you accurately count them for the concert goers :D Sorry I don’t mean to argumentative.
But yeah, that could be good. But with electric busses you also have the problem that you don’t utilized them well - most of the time the bus would just be parked and the embodied energy of the battery be worse than a ICE bus. Same logic for embodied energy is true for a jet too, you’d want a fleet of rent-able jets that are optimized for low energy use - something like the Celera 500L. That jet is a bit slower but incredibly fuel efficient (possibly more fuel efficient that a bus!). But do you trash the existing jet and throw it away? Because that could be worse because then the embodied energy was wasted. Basically you’d need an expert in carbon accounting to figure this out.
Why don’t we have a fleet of Celera like jets already? If we were an intelligent civilization we’d put massive investments in that. Or high speed rail and have rail cars for bands. But we don’t - and won’t. Partially because of propaganda, because it’s easy to blame the “virgin madonna” and call her a b**** instead of facing the reality that we’re completely and utterly incapable to do anything about climate change. National or civilization level policy is controlled by systems and not by human beings.
So the people I work with who never talked about her until after the whole register to vote thing actually started talking about her because of this recent lawsuit? Is my timeline off? All I was adding to the conversation is that was the START of the scrutiny, not the cause of these memes.
You’re talking about a whole bunch of different shit. Right here, right now, we’re talking about the memes about her stupid jet. You’re trying to change the subject to something else.
Republicans are having a temper tantrum because because of her political stances. Are you trying to say this is a republican meme? On a Republican website?
She did that years ago. Like, five years ago. These memes are a response to her suing the kid
It was. I was saying that’s what turned their microscope on her.
I love how it’s “the evil Republicans” doing all of this. Plenty of us are Democrats who think Taylor is incredibly hypocritical for not practicing exactly what she preaches. And least you forget, she’s a literal billionaire. That “1%” we point to as the worst contributors. And oh look, there she is, being just like the people she vilifies.
She’s a hypocrite plain and simple and the facade is starting to finally break. Her entire persona is manufactured by teams of publicists. She’s no different that the other billionaires, but she has you convinced she’s your best buddy.
… There was a whole thread here that got deleted where someone else was saying the exact same thing you are saying and I defended myself. If you re-read my comment, don’t add tone, don’t insinuate, de-prime yourself, it’s just me asking a question and adding context to the timeline. I don’t remember her ever being this big a part of the political conversation until after the “register to vote” thing. None of the old men at my work ever talked about her politically until after that. Yes these memes are about the current situation. My comment isn’t denying that. All it’s doing is asking a question about when she was on the political radar and pointing out when and how I noticed. Now I’m somehow a swifty defending her jet use because I recalled events? What in the world is going on in your life that causes you types to react like this and take it so personally? Is it because I used the R word and didn’t immediately follow it up with a D? Go outside!
And I think this is genocidal propaganda and misogyny drafted by FOX news. Yeah that’s grossly exaggerated and over the top, but hear me out:
First of all she’s not very political. At least not as far as I can tell, her opinions are rather mild basic human decency level stuff, but I don’t know much about her. This to your charge that she “preaches”.
Second, society being what it is you CAN’T practice what you believe, because our economy is build a certain way. She can’t do her job without a private jet, so even though there is some valid criticism there you’d also have to put the emissions her business use creates on the concert goers or consumers. It goes on their CO2 budget no hers. She even bought CO2 offsets which are BS of course.
Third, she’s being singled out, possibly because she’s supposed to be this white madonna. It’s apparently true that she uses her jet for private and “frivolous” purposes. But with all the jet setting going on, it’s at least suspicious that people want her to be the symbol of all evil. Some very clever sociopaths crafted this strategy because she’s the perfect symbol for it.
Lastly, even if all the criticism of her was justified it’s a distraction from the monumental and systemic issues preventing any meaningful action on climate change: Land reform, veganism, election reform, wealth redistribution, redesigning how we live and work, patents preventing adoption of improvements, planned vs free economy. Those are topics that nobody wants you to talk about. So instead it’s advantageous to blame her.
Afaik this all started with FOX news bashing her jet and the joke was “why is CO2 bad FOX news?”. But it WORKED!!! They have successfully disseminated a conspiracy theory that 20% of voters believe now and memes like this are trending.
Sorry about the rant, I really don’t mean to accuse anyone seriously of this, but this is the PR mechanisms I see working behind this stuff.
She could take a tour bus, she could own an electric fleet of them.
But the CO2 emissions of a jet are absolutely negligible if you accurately count them for the concert goers :D Sorry I don’t mean to argumentative.
But yeah, that could be good. But with electric busses you also have the problem that you don’t utilized them well - most of the time the bus would just be parked and the embodied energy of the battery be worse than a ICE bus. Same logic for embodied energy is true for a jet too, you’d want a fleet of rent-able jets that are optimized for low energy use - something like the Celera 500L. That jet is a bit slower but incredibly fuel efficient (possibly more fuel efficient that a bus!). But do you trash the existing jet and throw it away? Because that could be worse because then the embodied energy was wasted. Basically you’d need an expert in carbon accounting to figure this out.
Why don’t we have a fleet of Celera like jets already? If we were an intelligent civilization we’d put massive investments in that. Or high speed rail and have rail cars for bands. But we don’t - and won’t. Partially because of propaganda, because it’s easy to blame the “virgin madonna” and call her a b**** instead of facing the reality that we’re completely and utterly incapable to do anything about climate change. National or civilization level policy is controlled by systems and not by human beings.
Sorry for the rant lol
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So the people I work with who never talked about her until after the whole register to vote thing actually started talking about her because of this recent lawsuit? Is my timeline off? All I was adding to the conversation is that was the START of the scrutiny, not the cause of these memes.
You’re talking about a whole bunch of different shit. Right here, right now, we’re talking about the memes about her stupid jet. You’re trying to change the subject to something else.
Republicans are having a temper tantrum because because of her political stances. Are you trying to say this is a republican meme? On a Republican website?
Just adding context to a conversation and it seems that context triggered you. Go outside.
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