The answer is yes, and the TL;DR is not to use them, use 2FA, and not share personal details online (which is hopefully all obvious advice)

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/12060980

  • @[email protected]
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    1410 months ago

    no they are not, just another stupid article from proton. nothing stops you from saying that bwE0FpHb5iPzMZiismyeiTIWhoB*#V8SaD0F3R*SeH was your first pets name.

    proton however stops you from disabling otp after setting up multiple security keys, they stop you from putting a pin on your drive app and they stop you from using an +4 digit pin on your mail app.

    but yea, the potentially insecure thing they dont even offer is the biggest concernn here 🤦‍♀️

    • @[email protected]OP
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      3110 months ago

      Nothing stops us enthusiasts from doing that, this article is for a more casual user who might not realise how easy the real answers are for a hacker to discover

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        i mentionied the flaws i saw and are are being adresssed by the community since years without ever anything happening. so i just dont get the focus on a problem that does not even exist.

        what will the next article be about? to dont write your password on a post it and stick it onto the screen?

        • Tiger Jerusalem
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          1810 months ago

          Believe or not, these kind of articles unfortunately are necessary for the regular Joe.

        • @[email protected]
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          10 months ago

          Yes and that is a good advice. They don’t write these articles to teach you something new, you’re clearly not the target audience. Don’t blame them for educating people.

        • Rikudou_Sage
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          910 months ago

          I mean, I’ve seen a password on a post-it in our office, so yeah, maybe a good idea? We also have a company mandated Bitwarden and you wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve seen people type a password by hand instead of using Bitwarden when I help them set up VPN or something. It’s definitely upwards of 80%.

      • @LemmyKnowsBest
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        210 months ago

        I really don’t think anyone on the planet could figure out the name of my first pet. Even everyone in my family who would have known the answer to that question, they have all died. My first pet’s name is a secret safe with me.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          410 months ago

          Well that’s good for you, but the point is that info is the kind of thing that someone might have casually posted online over the years

          • @LemmyKnowsBest
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            110 months ago

            okay but first I want to tell you my mother’s maiden name and the name of the first school I went to.

    • @[email protected]
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      910 months ago

      nothing stops you from saying that bwE0FpHb5iPzMZiismyeiTIWhoB*#V8SaD0F3R*SeH was your first pets name.

      How will you remember that though? A lot of password managers don’t make it easy to store security question responses alongside account credentials, and if you’re using a security question, it might be because you lost access to those credentials anyway

      • Boozilla
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        1510 months ago

        I put these answers in the “notes” section of Bitwarden. It’s a little inconvenient, but it works.

        • @[email protected]
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          210 months ago

          It depends on if the purpose of the questions is for 2FA or account recovery. If the latter, you haven’t really solved anything since if you lose one then you lose the other

          • @[email protected]OP
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            1410 months ago

            My personal view is that the extra security that these so-called security questions bring is worth less than the risks they bring. I’d rather the (low) risk of Bitwarden being compromised and losing the account than the (high) risk of someone searching or discovering information about me I can’t change and losing the account.

    • @[email protected]
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      910 months ago

      no they are not, just another stupid article from proton. nothing stops you from saying that bwE0FpHb5iPzMZiismyeiTIWhoB*#V8SaD0F3R*SeH was your first pets name.

      And how many regular people do that? Or does security apply only to advanced users?