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    • lemmyvore
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      3711 months ago

      Things like defederation and having communities with the same topic on different instances are actually good things, they’re features of the Fediverse not problems.

      It takes a bit of adapting to the Fediverse mindset as opposed to the centralized platform mindset but there are solutions:

      • Having multiple communities like OP said is a good thing, let’s see which one rises to the top.
      • There are already Lemmy clients that can subscribe to accounts on multiple instances and merge everything seamlessly for you.
      • A multireddit-like feature will probably be implemented eventually, and I suspect it will also be a client feature not a server feature, because it makes much more sense on the client.
      • @tsz
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        911 months ago

        How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community to post to or watch for relevant information? I don’t agree that making meta-level knowledge of the site mandatory to successfully navigating it is healthy or smart for the long term success of lemmy.

        • Big Duck Energy
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          1111 months ago

          How did you pick between Coke and Pepsi? You picked the one you liked. Choice is a good thing, I think you’re making this harder than it needs to be.

          • @[email protected]
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            811 months ago

            A lot of these arguments are starting to sound like Reddit is astroturfing around here.

            • Big Duck Energy
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              11 months ago

              A lot of people are fresh off of Reddit and are looking for an exact clone of Reddit, which is fair enough. They don’t understand Federation and think Lemmy needs to stop doing it, lol. Like, Squables is that way - - - >

        • lemmyvore
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          811 months ago

          How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community

          The same way they have been doing it on reddit. You browse around, see a community that looks interesting and you subscribe. Notice that you have two related communities and you merge them in your client.

          I don’t agree that making meta-level knowledge of the site mandatory to successfully navigating it is healthy or smart for the long term success of lemmy.

          I mean, you need to know how a service works in order to use it effectively. Lemmy works a certain way and that’s that.

          Not sure which you’re arguing for – that Lemmy should be simpler (I think it’s fairly simple for what it is) or that clients should be simpler (which is happening as we speak) – but either way it’s going to work out. Hell, Twitter’s mechanics are a lot less intuitive and it still managed to make it big.

        • HobbitFoot
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          311 months ago

          How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community to post to or watch for relevant information? I

          Look at c/all and see which communities consistently are at the top. If you like one community over the other, upvote and comment on that community’s posts.

      • @IrBill
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        111 months ago

        Could you explain point two in more detail? I know you said account, but I’m hoping by community might be a feature, where I could subscribe to c/android and it’d maybe fetch all the c/android’s across all fediverse instances?

    • @[email protected]
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      611 months ago

      The beehaw and world defederation (which I assume you are referencing) is temporary because beehaw believes the increased traffic cannot be moderated without proper mod tools.

      And while you’re right about mainstream things like gaming or technology won’t have a single main community, I feel more niche communities will be able to setup their main communities. Obviouly that’s just my opinion, but there are some signs of that happening already. (c/piracy for example)

      • @dustojnikhummer
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        011 months ago

        Given instances can get defederated because of one sublemmy… pressing big X to doubt on that

          • @dustojnikhummer
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            111 months ago

            Okay, it is a stupid name, I admit. Better alternative?

            • Earl Turlet
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              1111 months ago

              Lemmy already calls it a community. It’s all over the UI, code, everything. Why call it something else?

        • HobbitFoot
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          511 months ago

          Instances will be judged on the subs they choose to host. Federating is a voluntary activity and defederating is the solution for other admins when one instance fails to keep their instance from turning into a Nazi bar.