Exclusive: Family calls for inquest, saying Wilkinson visited police ‘almost every day’ before she was murdered by her husband in 2021

  • @Dead_or_Alive
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    -1137 months ago

    Agreed, support 2A and depend upon yourself.

    • @frostysauce
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      427 months ago

      The article is about things that happened in Australia 🙄

        • Peter
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          @GhostedIC

          That’s because we don’t see using a gun as a right, just like we don’t see driving a car as a right. They’re both activities that are priviledges earned through training and licensing.

          @frostysauce

        • @Ross_audio
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          307 months ago

          And as a result the number of school shootings is much, much lower than in the US.

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        Exactly, I bet her loved ones wished she had the right tools to defend herself. Lord knows the police won’t.

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            -707 months ago

            No, the 1A means I can share it as much as I want. Freedom of Speech is awesome!

            • Muddybulldog
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              The irony of you tooting about 1A, celebrating your “right” to free speech, based on your ability to post something in a forum where 1A doesn’t apply.

              It’s delicious.

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                -47 months ago

                Well if you want seconds, I’m still posting.

              • @[email protected]
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                celebrating your “right” to free speech

                Offtopic: so these quotes mean you doubt that it is a right too?

                1A doesn’t apply for what mods do, but it seems mods agree that his opinion belongs here.

                1A does apply for him not being prosecuted for saying it anywhere. BTW, things like swatting gun rights’ supporters’ homes do in effect break 1A.

                So there’s a valid combination where there’s nothing “delicious” in your meaning in his comment - that’s if he meant that people in some other countries are more reserved with their opinions online because of fear of being flagged by police. I’d say it has some merit - slippery slopes work in reality.

                Also I think I’ve read something about Australia, refugees, detention and human rights activism of the level a bit more sinister than in US.

            • @Sacha
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              147 months ago

              You make it sound like thats unique to the US and a foreign concept to the rest of the world.

              Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you won’t face consequences of what you say.

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                -247 months ago

                Not saying it is unique, just stating my 1A rights mean I have the freedom to do so.

                  • @Dead_or_Alive
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                    So free speech that is constitutionally protected is a sign of an underdeveloped nation? Weird viewpoint but ok you do you.

                    The US is the only country with a flag on the moon, from where I live I can watch weekly launches into space. Europe depends upon us for manned launches. Our military is also more advanced than any other nation and is globally dominant which reinforces our hegemony.

                    We are one of the largest energy exporters (which hopefully Biden will curb, I don’t want the US exporting so much Natural Gas and oil that it drives up our ultra low domestic prices and exposes us to higher over seas rates. Preventing further global warming is a good bonus).

                    Did I mention that our economy is larger and is growing faster than the EU? Nearly forgot that one… https://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-eu-economy.php

                    Seems like we have a few things going for us.

            • @[email protected]
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              137 months ago

              And we have the freedom to call you out on your American bullshit (that doesn’t even work in the US).

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                -77 months ago

                Ok, I appreciate the update. I don’t really take the opinions of foreigners seriously so it’s good to know where you stand.

                • @[email protected]
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                  …if you don’t “take the opinions of foreigners seriously”, then why would you - a foreigner - share your opinion?

                  Grab both of your brain cells, and use em to find someone more on your level, okay? And trust me, “more on” is wording I’m sure you’re familiar with.

                  • @Dead_or_Alive
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                    -47 months ago

                    Why would you continue to talk to someone who doesn’t take you seriously?

            • @hark
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              27 months ago

              The first amendment applies only to government action on your speech. It has nothing to do with your speech on a private website and it doesn’t apply outside of the US (even if you’d like to think the US owns the world).

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                Yeah buddy I’m still posting. Stifling free speech is never a good solution. Maybe you are intimidated by opposing opinions and need some kind of safe space.

                I do not.

                • @hark
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                  wow ur so brave 😍

            • @Sacha
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              287 months ago

              US has the highest domestic violence / death by gun rates in the entire world.

              There is no such thing as good guy with a gun. Look at the victory parade just last week. People with guns everywhere just ran away for their lives instead of shooting the bad guy with the gun they love boasting about.

              The worst mass shooting in Canada in history was 12 dead. What’s the worst death toll in the US?

              The last school shooting in Canada was about 20 years ago, when was the last one in the US?

              If this Australian couple had guns, 90% chance she would have been shot and killed by beer husband instead of whatever means he used. The police should have done their jobs.

              That is the reality.

        • @[email protected]
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          The supposed tool to defend herself with would have been used to kill her even sooner.

          If you need a gun in order to feel safe in your country, you live in a shithole.

    • Ixoid
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      Fuck off. Australia doesn’t want or need your freedum bullshit.

      • @TengoDosVacas
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        Those of you who automatically dismiss self-defense out of hand: what is your method of self-defense, and why wasn’t it used in 1930s Germany?

    • Bakkoda
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      247 months ago

      If only you supported education, more specifically geography, as much as you pretend to support the Constitution.

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        No I fully support the constitution and wish the amendments were universal human rights, not just American rights.

        • @WaxedWookie
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          137 months ago

          A populace with the ability to kill anyone with the press of a button isn’t free or safe - it’s fearful, which is a dangerous thing to be when you have a gun.

          Gestures lazily at gun deaths per capita compared to the rest of the developed world.

          There’s also the 13th - Slavery is fine so long as we criminalise you. Why the fuck would you want this, exactly?

          Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

          The deification of the founding fathers - a bunch of slave owners and the like is deeply weird. They had some good ideas… and some atrocious ones.

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            Odd I have your username labeled as “Gone full ******!” Check your comment history we’ve done this dance before.

            • @WaxedWookie
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              Defending slavery isn’t getting any less monstrous or dumb.

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                Lol, you never change WaxedWookie, full ****** is your thing.

                • @WaxedWookie
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                  I wouldn’t be so quick to dish out judgment if my thing were slavery and slurs, but I’m not an obvious piece of shit, so you do you, I guess.

        • @[email protected]
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          So you want more deaths in the world?

          Well I don’t.

          Any country where you need a gun in order to feel safe is a shithole.

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            Weird flex but ok. I suppose if you are privileged enough to stay in a country with no violence you should probably stay there.

            For everyone else, we like our rights to self defense.

        • @Bluetreefrog
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          wish the amendments were universal human rights, not just American rights.

          No thanks. You can keep your constitution. Ours isn’t perfect either, but I prefer it to yours.

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        I love the duality of Lemmy users:

        “Ohhh nooos we can’t depend upon the police!”

        “Ohh nooos how dare someone suggest taking agency for their own safety ! 2A is baddd mmmkay!”

        • TheMonkeyLord
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          I think the overall sentiment is removing violence as an option for everyone, cops, citizens, and criminals alike

          Guns as a thing in this world inherently create death and loss as a result of their existence, not in spite of it

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            It’s a nice sentiment, I too abhor violence. But the world we live in is just not that way. I prefer to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst in people.

        • @[email protected]
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          27 months ago

          Bark on about how your rights are being taken, maybe when you find your oppressor we can throw a gun in the mix and see who comes out victorious. Waah waah, the powers are holding me down. Let’s go get the state to allow more unrestricted access to fire arms, as that’s everyone’s solution to everything.

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            Im not sure where your rant came from. I’m not trying to throw a revolution. Just trying to protect me and mine.

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                Are opposing opinions scary to you? Do you need a safe space?

                • @[email protected]
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                  Buddy, you’re the one all about the safe space in your domicile with your guns. TF i care about your trolling, you’re in a thread about domestic abuse, and have no grasp on the statistics I presented to counter your high and mighty opinion.

                  • @Dead_or_Alive
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                    Lol, dropping a link in a post does not constitute an argument or a counter to my “high and mighty opinion”. That is a citation.

                    If you can’t form a coherent argument on your own thats fine, but don’t delude yourself into thinking dropping a link is a substitute.

      • @[email protected]
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        Let’s just set up a standoff where the husband, wife and one police officer all hold guns to each other. It’ll all sort itself out when the dust settles like the wild west. See I can come up with stupid politically motivated solutions too. Stupid, to say a gun will “fix” a situation involving domestic abuse. You hear that 2A’ers, THAT’S STUPID!

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        You did the ol’Reddit switcharoo. I gotta say it takes a special kind of animal to do that on a thread dealing with a domestic abuse victim.

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        I would think they would love to hear freedom spread across the world. 2A rights are human rights.

    • @wabafee
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      Just here to keep the -69.

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        I’ve seen what Lemmy upvotes, I prefer your downvotes.

        • @WaxedWookie
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          07 months ago

          We’ll throw complaining about the calibre of people in the spaces you decide to frequent voluntarily on the pile with the rest of your dumb bullshit.

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            Are you stalking me Waxed Wookiee? Just an FYI, I don’t plan on paying rent for that tiny headspace of yours.

            • @WaxedWookie
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              It’s all about you, isn’t it? Not as though I’ve been a presence in this thread or anything.

              Best way to avoid me would be to stop posting such aggressively stupid bullshit.

              • @Dead_or_Alive
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                Perhaps you may need your own safe space. But be assured you will find me where a Pro 2A view is needed.

                • @WaxedWookie
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                  People should indeed be safe from slavery - lead paint too. Shame it seems it’s a little late for you on that front.

                  • @Dead_or_Alive
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                    People should be safe from slavery. Convicted murderers, pedophiles, rapists and criminals who are serving a prison sentence should not.

                    Are you pro rapist and pediphile?