Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a...

Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as “a group of self-styled experts.” It states that Abraham “Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.”

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“Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five,” according to the report. “Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.”

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden “ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans.”

  • AFK BRB ChocolateEnglish
    5•9 months ago

    You don’t think literally trying to overthrow the government qualifies him for below average?

    • @[email protected]
      1•9 months ago

      Below average yes. Worst of all time no. For all the evils of American history including all sorts and quantities of deaths, there was a president egging them on, perpetrating them himself, or at the least looking away.

      • AFK BRB ChocolateEnglish
        1•9 months ago

        Agreed on the last sentence, but most of those guys also did a lot of positive things. Like Nixon did some terrible things, and likely would have been removed from office if he hadn’t resigned, but he also negotiated significant arms reductions with the Soviet Union, pulled out of Vietnam, negotiated trade with China, and other positive things. I think historians do some offsetting of good and bad. Trump didn’t have a lot of good. I’m not sure Andrew Jackson has much good to balance his significant atrocities, but if be okay with him in last place and Trump next.

        • @afraid_of_zombies
          2•9 months ago

          pulled out of Vietnam,

          You might want to read more about this. He prolonged the war 6 more years. More of war happened under him than the previous admins combined.

          • AFK BRB ChocolateEnglish
            1•9 months ago

            Oh, oops, that’s a bad screw up on my part. I remember that he was pretty vocal about wanting to pull out, but I was pretty young and apparently my history is poor. Thanks for the clarification, I’ll make a correction.

            My broader point stands though: some of the presidents who did bad things also did good things, and I think historians weigh both.

            Edit: reading about it more, in not sure my original post was too far off. He did work pretty hard to end it and personally believed it had to be ended and quickly. Yes, he was thwarted for some time, and he did some pretty awful things in the name of ending it. He got an agreement signed and pulled US troops out, but the Vietnamese didn’t abide by the agreement and kept fighting. So I guess what I remembered is he ended it for the US. I said he pulled out, not that he ended the war.