• @shiroininja
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    99 months ago

    Not that you could before, but I wouldn’t trust any chips, hardware, software, anything made from there from a security stand point anymore.

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      9 months ago

      What alternative is there lol. The rest of high-tech are made in the US or its allies, which is far worse.

      • @orbit
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        49 months ago

        Why is that worse?

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          Because while there are only obtuse and vague accusations that China is backdooring technology, there’s no proof besides a Chinese law that says Chinese tech companies have to help authorities.

          The US on the other hand was caught red handed doing what they accuse China of with the Prism system. It was caught spying on Angela Merkle. And just ask Snowdon how he feels about living in exile in Russia for exposing that.

          • @Batman
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            29 months ago

            How would you reconcile the great firewall with this view? They censor texts(on many platforms) with certain messages. To do this you obviously need access to the content.

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              It all has to do with transparency. China actively tells you what it’s doing and what it collects. Thus, the Chinese citizens can prepare for it and do by using VPNs.

              The US is spying. Not just on it’s own citizens, but the entire world. Merkel for example couldn’t have known that US was spying on her and didn’t have the opportunity to protect herself by using a VPN. Mind you, this is on TOP of US companies openly and transparently collecting data as we discovered with Cambridge Analytica.

              Again, remember, we’re not saying China is good. We’re saying USA is worse, since they do everything China does on data collection AND they have backdoors and spy.

              *Edit: Interestingly this transparency in what they collect is a primary reason for why the west believes they’re oppressing Uyghurs. The problem is they’re conflating this transparent information with oppression. Things like do they go to prayer or shave their beards are things that are collected. The west has stated that this shows the Chinese are targeting Uyghurs, the problem with that analysis is that China does this to everyone.

              Another example is a data point China collected was are you planning to have a child soon. The west took this as are you getting pregnant and stated that China is trying to force women to have children. The problem with a lot of western articles is they’re mistranslating and misunderstanding.

              Say what you will about if you’re OK with this type of data collection, but at least China is honest about it, to the point we are misconstruing their collecting of data to place insidious ideas on them.

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          From my point of view, Western powers are more realistically gonna impinge on my human rights than Beijing is.

          Your circumstances may be different.

          • @TheFonz
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            29 months ago

            You should go to China and go speak openly about the Tia men massacre. See how long you last.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          Do you really need to ask why you shouldn’t trust the countries responsible for the vast majority of ongoing neocolonialism, and the ones currently supporting a genocide?

          Just look up some of the numerous shit the CIA has done, or the fact that they collect information on every US citizen to use against them, etc. Or the 1965 Indonesian massacre of 700k to 1mil people where the CIA supplied the military dictatorship with information on them.

          • R0cket_M00se
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            59 months ago

            How many reeducation camps does China currently operate, again?

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              Probably the amount you’d need to tackle a security threat like the ETIM and its attacks that are right inside your country.

              Could they have handled it better? Almost certainly; there’s always a better way to do something. But who am I to complain when the Organization of Islamic Cooperation approve of China’s treatment of its Muslim population?

              1. Welcomes the outcomes of the visit conducted by the General Secretariat’s delegation upon invitation from the People’s Republic of China; commends the efforts of the People’s Republic of China in providing care to its Muslim citizens; and looks forward to further cooperation between the OIC and the People’s Republic of China.

              Or how Global South, mostly Muslim, countries also approve, and the ones currently committing a genocide in Palestine are the only ones who accuse China of mishandling it?

              …separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights, including right to life, health and development. Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and deradicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers. Now safety and security has returned to Xinjiang and the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded. The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security. We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counter-terrorism and deradicalization.

              • @TheFonz
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                29 months ago

                Holy shit. Are we really defending the ethnic cleansing of the Uyghuirs??

              • @TheFonz
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                19 months ago

                Oh nvm. Just saw your account and…every post is “America bad”. Like every single post. That’s all you post.