• Lath
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    410 months ago

    A review said it requires a server connection in order to play offline?

    • @Vonyx
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      1310 months ago

      Not at launch, there will be a true full offline mode.

      • ampersandrew
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        210 months ago

        But not for multiplayer, correct? No LAN coming? I imagine they wouldn’t want to let you play offline when it has the in-app purchases tag.

        • @PlantJam
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          410 months ago

          The in app purchases are entirely cosmetic. The shop is set up to be really player friendly, though. For example, item prices and currency amounts match, and there aren’t any bonuses for buying more at once. You can even buy up to 200 stash tabs with regular in game gold.

          There isn’t an option for local LAN play as far as I know.

          • ampersandrew
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            110 months ago

            Cosmetic or not, it provides them an incentive to want to keep you online for multiplayer, so they’re probably not in a rush to add a feature like LAN that’s just plain better for the customer to have.

            • @PlantJam
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              710 months ago

              How much demand is there for LAN play, though? The friends I would want to play with are cities and states away, so we couldn’t use LAN even if we wanted to.

              • ampersandrew
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                The demand for LAN skyrockets to 100% as soon as it isn’t profitable for the developer to run a server for the game anymore. LAN (or private server, or direct IP connection) games can be played via low-latency VPN when there is no official infrastructure for the game anymore. Devs like to pull out the excuse that LAN isn’t used very often for why it doesn’t get implemented, but it’s a dishonest answer. It does take development resources to build, and playing with official online infrastructure is in fact the path of least resistance, but the death of that infrastructure is inevitable, and even when it’s running, you can run into an issue like Helldivers 2 is right now where it just isn’t reliable. If you want to omit the feature because most people never use it, you may as well design cars without seat belts or air bags. Grim Dawn and Titan Quest will be playable in multiplayer indefinitely into the future, because they have LAN.

                • @[email protected]
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                  10 months ago

                  ARPGs have basically been live games since Diablo 2 and only gotten farther down that route ever since.

                  If it is at the point where the developer can no longer justify maintaining the master servers, the game is (generally) dead as a doornail and the “100%” demand is a very small number.

                  I always prefer to have the option to do whatever I want with a game. But I fully acknowledge stuff like LAN mode for a live game is something that only benefits a small subset of players and is very much about “What happens after we have all lost our jobs?”.

                  Its the same reason that any studio that claims they will make all the DLC free or remove the DRM or whatever before they shut the doors are, at best, naive. And most likely lying. Because that is the farthest thing from a priority when you are trying to rip the copper out of the walls before you get called in for your layoff.

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                    For me, it’s a stamp of forced obsolescence on a game that didn’t have to be. If they don’t want to put in LAN, they can offer the server binaries, and people can and will figure it out if it’s an option. But let’s be real; the reason it isn’t there is because it creates a dependence on them that helps them sell you more stuff. I’m okay with them trying to sell me more stuff. I’m not okay with them destroying the longevity of a game to get there.