First-of-its-kind US bill would address the environmental costs of the technology, but there’s a long way to go.

one assessment suggests that ChatGPT, the chatbot created by OpenAI in San Francisco, California, is already consuming the energy of 33,000 homes. It’s estimated that a search driven by generative AI uses four to five times the energy of a conventional web search. Within years, large AI systems are likely to need as much energy as entire nations.

  • FaceDeer
    1•9 months ago

    Where did I make a personal attack? The comment where you explicitly asked for examples of you being anti-AI?

    And you’re slinging personal attacks against both of us, so if “holding people to different standards” is such a big deal, well…

    I didn’t ask because it didn’t matter. I wasn’t present, I have no idea what you guys were arguing about and I don’t care. The point is that you suddenly brought that argument in here, where it’s a complete non-sequitur and not relevant to the subject at hand. And you’re certainly not being civil about it.

    • Flying Squid
      0•9 months ago

      Where did I make a personal attack?

      Right here:

      Last week you were advocating in favor of mobs burning self-driving cars if they were “pissed off” by them.

      Because that is a false accusation intended to make me look bad. And you know it.

      • FaceDeer
        1•9 months ago

        You literally asked for that. What a wonderful catch-22 you set up; if nobody responded with the evidence you demanded you could claim people were lying about you, and if they provided it you can claim they’re launching personal attacks.

        Rereading that previous thread, I see you were quick to accuse me of issuing personal attacks there too. Seems to be a common theme.

        Anyway. Is there anything more to discuss here about the actual topic of this thread, the energy usage of ChatGPT?

        • Flying Squid
          0•9 months ago

          I literally asked for you to lie in order to make me look bad by claiming I said people could burn a car if they were pissed off?

          I’m pretty sure I didn’t say either thing.

          And yes I did accuse you of making personal attacks then. Because you were making them then and you’re making them now.

          • FaceDeer
            1•9 months ago

            MagicShel said:

            This is about you hate AI

            And you responded:

            Please demonstrate that to be true. Unless it’s a lie. Is it a lie?

            So I demonstrated.

            There’s no need to screenshot one specific quote and present it with no context, I provided a link to the whole thread.

            • Flying Squid
              -1•9 months ago

              The only thing you demonstrated was that you lied. And you provided the link to prove it.

              The first statement was, as I have demonstrated, a lie. The second statement was, as I said, dishonest, because it was a group decision, not a unilateral one, and had nothing to do with hating AI in general.

              So no, you have not shown that to be in any way true. All you have shown is that you are a highly dishonest person who makes scurrilous accusations in order to harm someone’s reputation.

              Badly.

              • FaceDeer
                -1•9 months ago

                That’s not the comment I was referring to. Here’s a direct link, where you said:

                I think it’s reasonable for a mob to destroy one of the many self-driving cars that have been pissing off San Francisco residents for a very long time now when it tries to drive into them during a big celebration where cars weren’t even supposed to be. Who got hurt here? Waymo? Fuck Waymo.

                • Flying Squid
                  1•9 months ago

                  Yep, still lying.

                  I didn’t say-

                  I think it’s reasonable for a mob to destroy one of the many self-driving cars that have been pissing off San Francisco residents for a very long time now

                  I said:

                  I think it’s reasonable for a mob to destroy one of the many self-driving cars that have been pissing off San Francisco residents for a very long time now when it tries to drive into them during a big celebration where cars weren’t even supposed to be. Who got hurt here? Waymo? Fuck Waymo.

                  But it is pretty amusing that you pasted a quote yourself that proves what you said was a lie. Maybe you should have cut off that second part to make the lie more convincing.

                  • FaceDeer
                    -1•9 months ago

                    The car didn’t drive into them. It stopped.

                    But re-arguing a week-old thread in a different unrelated thread is likely even less welcome. Anyone who’s really interested can go read it.