• Nougat
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    510 months ago

    I’m not making excuses for anyone here –

    I expect it is extremely confusing for many people when “Jewish” is a religion, an ethnicity, a nationality, a nation, and a political football. This leads to anything the Israeli government opposes to be construed in the same light, which is how we get people equating “Palestinians living in severe apartheid conditions inside the borders of the nation of Israel” with “Hamas.” And, of course, anyone who opposes the actions of the Israeli government is likely to get branded “antisemitic,” because if you oppose the Jewish nation you must also oppose the Jewish religion, ethnicity, and nationality, right? (Narrator: Wrong.)

    Because of this conflation of so many different things being called the same thing, I try to make absolutely clear what I’m talking about (when I dare dip my toe into those shark-infested waters). Hamas fucking sucks. The Israeli government fucking sucks. What both of those entities do - and have done for a very long time - demonstrate that they are both genocidal shitbags. Supporters of either, be they Israeli citizens, Palestinians, or third parties, fucking suck right alongside them.

    • Flying Squid
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      But I’m talking about a domestic issue here.

      The fact is, both Trump and Biden will support genocide in Israel… but only one of them might commit genocide on queer people domestically. And it isn’t Biden.

      I will do anything I can to keep my daughter and all other queer people safe. That means keeping Trump out of office at all costs. If voting for someone else will do that, great. Until someone tells me who that person is, I will have to hold my nose and vote for Biden.

      • Nougat
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        210 months ago

        Oh, sure - to be perfectly clear, nothing I said was intended to address that concern, and your position is absolutely sound. I was only referring to the tangent of “I rarely get an answer, but I do get told I support genocide,” outside of all that.

        • Drusas
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          110 months ago

          One of the other people who responded to her literally accused her of supporting genocide because she’s focused on her queer daughter in the comment they replied to and not on Palestine.