There are no communist leaders. Communism is an economic model not a governmental methodology. The term has been abused. To claim otherwise is to claim North Korea is a Democratic Republic.
There is no communism without a dictatorship. Nobody is going to donate everything they make to the collective, if there’s no threat of gulag lingering around.
People do it all the time. Look up social libertarianism and anarcho communism.
Marxist Leninist are the authoritarian ones. Actual communists dislike ML too. They are at best nominally communist. By virtue of naming their authoritarian party “the Communist party” etc. But they largely reject actual communism.
But are there any working examples? I know there were some attempts at creating communes in the US. It usually ended up by people arguing so much that the group dissolved, or a charismatic leader taking over, which lead to a whole bunch of abuse.
There are groups out there. Yes. Though for very good reason they aren’t very public about it. And yes, several have dissolved to squabbles or fallen to charismatics. Just because they might be more social minded doesn’t make them any less human. And therefore vulnerable to the same issues everyone is vulnerable too.
Quite honestly, I’ve often thought about the viability of a public project of the type. Crowd funding it’s start and staffing perhaps. Build out to a point of basic sustainment and expand, repeating. It could be done. But there will absolutely be violence from capitalists and those they influence. Should they believe their stolen hordes are threatened. Which is why those that have traditionally existed exist well below the radar.
Plenty of places in the world were doing just fine until the US interfered with endless sanctions and/or backing coups by those that would be more us capitalist friendly.
You see how they personally attack me? Please feel free to check my other comments. I’m not some trump fan he’s the joke of the world, I’m a reasonable person that has on site experience by living in south America. EACH AND EVERY LEFT WING HERE IS LINKED TO NARCO TERRORISM.
The right isn’t even right at all. The extreme right in south America is more left as the liberals in the us of aholes. (except religious stuff, somehow religion and leftism has conquered people like the literal inquisition
ALL THE COMUNISTAS FROM SOUTH AMERICA FROM CUBA VENEZUELA ECUADOR SURINAM COLOMBIA MÉXICO SO MANY MORE THEY ARE allllllll sponsored by other dictator states and NARCOS.
This is 100% of the cases.
All south American left wing parties are NARCO TERRORISTS.
luckily where I live in ECUADOR they have started locking them up. One by one each one falls because of PROVEN CORRUPTION TO THE BONE IN EACH AND EVERY PORJECT AND DEPARTMENT… So much money given to China and Cuba and Venezuela… It’s really sad how they can milk a country that was already poor before…
Not a one of those is a “communist” country much less has a “communist” leader despite using “communism” as a campaign slogan and even having subsidies. Look the fucking words up, then discuss.
Every one of those countries is massively conservative and you claim them to be leftist??? Corruption is resplendent but only one side excuses it as the other condemns it. Please explain about emperor for life Pooh bear, oh sorry, Xi being a liberal. You can’t as the stuffing is 100% conservative. Maduro a liberal??? are you shooting up drain cleaner? Nope. Each and every one is a conservative. There are no liberals there. And thus not an actual socialist nor communist amongst them. Stop being stupid.
We should normalize hating anyone of thing with hundreds of millions in wealth. The disparity must be called bs everywhere.
So the communist leaders of the last twenty years MADE THEIR MONEY IN POLITICS are much more to blame as a SOCCER MILLIONAIRE… Right ? ⚽👍👍👍
Whatabout! whatabout! Whatabout!
There are no communist leaders. Communism is an economic model not a governmental methodology. The term has been abused. To claim otherwise is to claim North Korea is a Democratic Republic.
There is no communism without a dictatorship. Nobody is going to donate everything they make to the collective, if there’s no threat of gulag lingering around.
People do it all the time. Look up social libertarianism and anarcho communism.
Marxist Leninist are the authoritarian ones. Actual communists dislike ML too. They are at best nominally communist. By virtue of naming their authoritarian party “the Communist party” etc. But they largely reject actual communism.
But are there any working examples? I know there were some attempts at creating communes in the US. It usually ended up by people arguing so much that the group dissolved, or a charismatic leader taking over, which lead to a whole bunch of abuse.
There are groups out there. Yes. Though for very good reason they aren’t very public about it. And yes, several have dissolved to squabbles or fallen to charismatics. Just because they might be more social minded doesn’t make them any less human. And therefore vulnerable to the same issues everyone is vulnerable too.
Quite honestly, I’ve often thought about the viability of a public project of the type. Crowd funding it’s start and staffing perhaps. Build out to a point of basic sustainment and expand, repeating. It could be done. But there will absolutely be violence from capitalists and those they influence. Should they believe their stolen hordes are threatened. Which is why those that have traditionally existed exist well below the radar.
Plenty of places in the world were doing just fine until the US interfered with endless sanctions and/or backing coups by those that would be more us capitalist friendly.
Coup can only work on centralized regimes, which, are supposedly not real communism.
But we can agree on one thing - fuck the foreign interference.
Other than most clan and every decent family, sure, yeah, whatever.
For a family, small religious sect or a scout group, why not.
If you can keep up with who’s doing what without using any measurement unit (money), it can work.
I thought we were talking about the whole country, though.
When scale is undeclared, scale is to be assumed all encompassing.
You see how they personally attack me? Please feel free to check my other comments. I’m not some trump fan he’s the joke of the world, I’m a reasonable person that has on site experience by living in south America. EACH AND EVERY LEFT WING HERE IS LINKED TO NARCO TERRORISM.
The right isn’t even right at all. The extreme right in south America is more left as the liberals in the us of aholes. (except religious stuff, somehow religion and leftism has conquered people like the literal inquisition
Wow what a lies.
ALL THE COMUNISTAS FROM SOUTH AMERICA FROM CUBA VENEZUELA ECUADOR SURINAM COLOMBIA MÉXICO SO MANY MORE THEY ARE allllllll sponsored by other dictator states and NARCOS.
This is 100% of the cases.
All south American left wing parties are NARCO TERRORISTS.
luckily where I live in ECUADOR they have started locking them up. One by one each one falls because of PROVEN CORRUPTION TO THE BONE IN EACH AND EVERY PORJECT AND DEPARTMENT… So much money given to China and Cuba and Venezuela… It’s really sad how they can milk a country that was already poor before…
Not a one of those is a “communist” country much less has a “communist” leader despite using “communism” as a campaign slogan and even having subsidies. Look the fucking words up, then discuss.
Every one of those countries is massively conservative and you claim them to be leftist??? Corruption is resplendent but only one side excuses it as the other condemns it. Please explain about emperor for life Pooh bear, oh sorry, Xi being a liberal. You can’t as the stuffing is 100% conservative. Maduro a liberal??? are you shooting up drain cleaner? Nope. Each and every one is a conservative. There are no liberals there. And thus not an actual socialist nor communist amongst them. Stop being stupid.