I’m done, I’ve been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I’ve been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I’ve ever had on any lemmy instance), I’ve had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I’ve had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.
Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers
Stopping the bombing in Gaza will not make Hamas reverse course overnight. In fact, there was no bombing happening before October 7 when Hamas crossed over and butchered 1200 people. I’m glad the West has suddenly woken up to what is happening in this region yesterday because of what’s going on now with the IDF going full on genocide in the Gaza strip, but this conflict is far deeper and started long before Oct 7. Picking one of the parties (regardless if it’s the Houthis, Hamas , or Israeli Defense Forces) and ignoring everything that happened preceding Oct 7 is extremely naive. We need a ceasefire now, and we need the Palestinians to come to the table without Hamas (or the PLO) and we need Netanyahu’s ethnic centic cabinet replaced. All this talking in circles about who is right or wrong is not going to lead to any actionable plan. Legitimizing the Houthis won’t bring about any meaningful progress to this region.
Do you know the Houthi’s will lift their blockade the second that a ceasefire is reached? That is literally their condition for the blockade. The Houthi’s have already proven to stop their attacks during the temporary ceasefire we had before. And after ceasefire ended they continued.
This not true either. Israel had actually been increasing their bombing of Gaza each year. Not to mention israel’s blockade of food and clean water for Gaza.
Hamas actually tried a peaceful demonstration in 2018 and israeli snipers were having competitions on how many people’s kneecaps they could snipe. And they killed many people then too.
Consider watching this video from far before 7 Oct for some more background on the conflict from the Palestinian side.
Oh man, and before October 7 Hamas and the Houthis were just the most nicest people ever. How dare anyone retaliate against their suicide bombings and incessant Rocket launches. And the Houthis, oh man! Just the best people
Now go read on what was there before there was Hamas. Hint: israel doing Genocide.
Israel multiple times brought peace deals to the table and each time the Palestinians walked away. It doesn’t matter if we dig up the whole historical record: It won’t change the disgusting behavior of Hamas or Israel.
But anyone running defence for Hamas is really out of touch with the last six decades of conflict in the region. You can reduce it to “Israel was doing a genocide” but that’s a meaningless statement spoken un a vacuum and anyone whose actually lived there or familiar with the history of the region will just look at you with a puzzled look.
This is also a complete falsification of history. Conveniently ignoring the Likud party assassinating Rabin too when the Palestinians were about to accept a deal.
And it is still not relevant as stealing 90% of the land doesn’t make you a good guy when you give 10% back. Furthermore there is no justification for entrapping two million people in a concentration camp for 20 years.
For a better understanding consider this video
You’re kinda missing the point and seeing the trees for the forest. I don’t know how to discuss this with you any longer. If all IDF bombing stopped tomorrow, Hamas will still continue its relentless attacks until it achieves its goals. Nothing will change. Pretending Hamas is some noble liberation army is incredibly misguided. They will not stop until all of Israel has been exterminated. Both sides in this conflict are relentless and to say otherwise is to be incredibly ignorant. Also, you gotta stop with the YouTube links. YouTube is not a primary source for any type of political discussion.
No there was a ceasefire in November and Hamas kept it well.
Only israel violated it twice. Which is tradition as every ceasefire gets violated by israel.
Hey, look at that. If you go back in time you can find enough atrocious actions committed by both sides:
Hamas Breaches Ceasefire
Do we need to play the “snipe the event that fits our narrative” game now? I can’t believe the lengths you are going to defend Hamas. We can condemn Israel, but we don’t need to defend Hamas in order to do that. What part is about this is confusing to you?