(Not mine, just sharing)

  • @[email protected]
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    210 months ago

    If you go left far enough you oppose gun control and aren’t overlapping any of those circles…

    • @vampire
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      -1210 months ago

      Gun control has nothing to do with left vs right. Either you are privileged enough to have never felt true danger or you live in the real world.

      • @Potatos_are_not_friends
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        10 months ago

        Most of the real danger in my life is the result of guns being in the hands of people who want to kill me because I walked on their grass or something

        • @vampire
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          -310 months ago

          Has this ever actually happened to you?

          • @Potatos_are_not_friends
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            1210 months ago

            I get a few “Go back to where you came from” and a N word here and there, as well as standard police BS. It got worse during Trump and we bailed the small towns.

            But you tell me how many dead folks you need before you feel validated.

            • @vampire
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              I was assaulted a month ago, didn’t draw any weapon but if strangers didn’t intervene at the last second I would have. I belong to a targeted minority, and the only alternative to being able to defend myself is basically just to hide.

              Edit: Maybe a bit longer than a month ago now

                • @vampire
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                  210 months ago

                  If the altercation started 15 seconds earlier it would have been different. If that changes nothing for you then there is no need to continue this

      • @SmoothIsFast
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        310 months ago

        I feel like this comment could go either way.

        • @vampire
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          -510 months ago

          Read the other reply to my message. They admit they haven’t experienced true danger, and they’re clearly in favor of gun control.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        I grew up in a pretty liberal area around lots of gun enthusiasts. Some of them liked to hunt, others were just really protective of their property.

        I now live in a pretty conservative area around lots of gun enthusiasts. Some of them like to hunt, others are just really protective of their property.

        Gun violence doesn’t come from responsible gun owners, it comes from gangs (usually stolen guns), mentally unwell people (often stolen), and police (kind of both of the previous groups…). The solution isn’t “fewer scary guns in general,” but “better checks to reduce the guns that get to bad people.”

        My suggestion is to attack each of the problems separately:

        • gangs - invest in poor areas to increase opportunities, legalize recreational drugs, promote free contraception options, etc
        • mental health - increase access to mental health services, make requirement for locking up firearms (increase barrier to access), require private firearm sales to go through gun dealer or police (to facilitate background checks), etc
        • police - split force into unarmed and armed groups, with armed police having higher expectations, training and salaries

        Gun control legislation I’ve seen so far is mostly useless, since it attacks “scary guns” like the AR-15 style guns, which are a minority among gun violence by statistics, which are dominated by suicides and gang violence (both often use handguns, not AR-15 style rifles).