Individually doing atmospheric analysis for every planet in the galaxy is probably an impossible task for a civilisation confined to a single solar system. Listening for signals is something our civilisation already does. If we discover radio signals from a primitive civilisation in the next star system over there’s a non-zero chance we’d panic and try to wipe them out.

That’s the risk that dark forest theory is talking about. Maybe the threat comes from a civilisation dedicated to wiping out intelligent life that just hasn’t found you yet, maybe it just comes from your nearest neighbor. Maybe there’s no threat at all. The risk of interplanetary war is still too great to turn on a light in the forest and risk a bullet from the dark.

And while knowing this, why do we still not choose to just observe and be as quiet/ non existant as possible?

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    Option 4: Advanced aliens killed the dinosaurs, and they’ll kill us once they notice us. But maybe they only check once each galactic year?

    Option 5: Advanced aliens killed the dinosaurs, but their civilization fell into ruin.

    • @AA5B
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      Option 6. The dinosaurs destroyed the advanced aliens, but one rock got through and fatally damaged their society as well

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      Given the size of the rock that killed the dinosaurs it seems pretty far fetched that aliens would have done that. It’s too small. They would have had to specifically wanted to kill most life but not all of it. When you’re talking about eliminating threats from interstellar distances you go with overkill. You hit somewhere hard enough to rip off the crust and make the planet molten again.

      Now if you want to say aliens saw dinosaurs as a dead end path for evolution and hit the reset button that would at least make some sense.

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        Yeah, that’s a fair point about using a larger meteor. Unless the alien assigned to the task screwed up? Unlikely, yes, but that’s the problem with this kind of speculation. There isn’t really any evidence to examine. Maybe there weren’t any aliens. Maybe there were, and they screwed up! Maybe there were, and they thought what they used would be enough, but a quirk of Earth biology let small mammals survive. Maybe there were two groups of aliens, and the second group interfered enough to prevent full overkill.

        Alien shepherds could def be Option 6. These could all be fun sci-fi story prompts!

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          Unless the alien assigned to the task screwed up? Unlikely

          Able to detect life from a different solar system. Able to send a meteor to exactly hit a specific planet light years away. Yet they screwed up the math on the size?

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            Screwed up the math, or made a typo when entering the parameters into their computer, or the being in charge was in a hurry and eyeballed it “eh…close enough, let’s do this and go home!”. We’re talking about hypothetical aliens with technology, not gods.

            More likely is that there were no aliens, but that’s the boring theory.

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            Meh, Bob was having a bad day when he was assigned to grabbing an asteroid out of the Kuiper Belt and sending it to destroy life on a planet.

            He grabbed the most convenient one that seemed big enough, so he could check the box, and get back to playing Missile Command.

            Besides, it’ll take millions of years for any life to recover on that planet, wtf does he care, he’ll be long dead.