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“You know and I know it’s the toughest, most efficient, most effective border security bill this country’s ever seen,” Biden said. “So instead of playing politics with the issue, why don’t we just get together and get it done?”
Biden touted the bipartisan border bill as “a win for the American people,” calling it a “truly bipartisan initiative.” He called on the Senate to reconsider the bill, asking senators to “set politics aside” and for House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., to put the bill on the floor.
“We need to act,” Biden said, adding that Republicans in Congress needed to “show a little spine.”
You my dude are completely misreading the situation.
Maybe…
I’ve got this outdated belief that when a president says something, it should be clear and honest.
No matter what happens, for the next five years we’ll have to constantly wonder if what the president said was even what he meant to say. Doesn’t matter who wins, we won’t be able to trust the words coming out of the US presidents mouth. We’ll have to wait a day or so for his aides to tell us what he really meant.
It’s kinda and of depressing
When Biden said that about the border he was challenging the Republicans to give Biden that win, because he knew they wouldn’t and that Trump is too dumb not to fall for the trap Biden and his team set by saying that, and Biden was right, Trump pulled the strings and the border deal failed.
Right or wrong though, we need to solve the border problem, and that’s definitely not by letting rednecks hunt central and south Americans, like Trump and the GOP, especially the Texas GOP, are advocating for.
Biden knows that the solution lies in legislating for more judges and other staff to help streamline and improve the citizenship process, but the GOP are against that because they buy into the “great replacement theory” and don’t want any more brown people, especially with Trump telling them that he’ll do mass deportations if he’s elected.
But it also goes beyond that, because we have to help solve what keeps people coming here, and that’s because of the political instability and tyranny of their origin countries, I mean brown people aside, look at what’s going on in Haiti today as an example (gangs basically taking over the Haitian capital and kidnapping more political leaders).
You say no matter who wins, but if Trump wins he’s promising to make all of this dramatically worse, his supporters are determined to end democracy, and he and his supporters are promising vengeance on their enemies, and I and many others would definitely be considered their enemies, this is full on Hitler/Stalin shit, and sitting on the fence like you are is basically siding with Trump.
So Biden is just lying to voters, to piss off the other side… And we should have known he didn’t mean what he said.
Sound like something a trumpet would say after Trump said something stupid.
I bet you’re gonna act surprised when turnout is low
Only an idiot would take what Biden did as lying, the sarcasm was clear in his statement, maybe you’re just foolishly looking for any excuse to not vote for him, maybe you secretly want Trump back.
Trumpets say the shit they say to defend Trump with no knowledge of what the topic actually is, I on the other hand heard what Biden said, how he said it, and watched the political fallout from the statement, including Teump going against his usual stance and demanding the bill be killed because it would make Biden look “good”, but hey fucking thanks for trying to paint me as one of those idiots.
Let’s turn this around on you, maybe you’re just here to sealion the issue, because your insistence that Biden is lying sounds pretty damn Trumpy too, because it just sounds like you’re hearing what you want to hear rather than understanding how the “game” of politics is often played, especially when one of those people involved is a complete buffoon (Trump) that is easily manipulated and led to desired outcomes.
There’s nothing secret about what these people are trying to do.
>maybe you’re just here to sealion the issue, because your insistence that Biden is lying sounds pretty damn Trumpy too
this kind of shit needs to stop. these accusations of bad faith are, themselves, bad faith.
Yet we can see plenty of bad faith arguers constantly on this site just as we see it on Reddit and every other social media platform, because it’s an effective strategy to undermine topics and induce indifference, maybe you should tell all of the foreign intel agents, white supremacists, and Christian Nationalists that “this shit needs to stop”.
I just don’t feel like the dude I’m replying to is arguing in good faith, he was quick to try and insult and seems determined to disregard portions of my replies to them. I have no problem with articulating criticism of Biden, but to call a political play aimed at the Republicans “lying to the American people” is as disingenuous as it freaking gets, or as naive as it gets.
Sent you an IM. Be careful here.
> maybe you should tell all of the foreign intel agents, white supremacists, and Christian Nationalists
these kind of people have found the fediverse to be unwelcoming since its inception. they are not who you are arguing with: you are tilting at windmills.
Oh because Tankies that horseshoe theory applies to don’t exist? Plenty of those shitheads are Russian bootlickers who also support white supremacy and other conservative BS. Also as if white supremacists or Nazis or whatever won’t lie on the Internet, I mean they’re only widely known for their lying on the Internet and constant infiltration of places that don’t want them.
You’re sounding as naive as the other guy.
So you think Biden doesn’t think the border is America’s largest issue…
And somehow he wasn’t lying when he said it…
Great, another trumpet in Dems clothing for me to break.
The big tent’s purpose isn’t to let people with zero morals make the dem party as shit as republicans
Again you definitely seem like you’re sealioning, i don’t get your point of being so argumentive and insulting.
I’m not Biden I can’t tell you what he was thinking, but I understand sarcasm when I hear it, Biden knew if he got a border deal then he wins, and if Trump killed the border deal Biden still wins, that’s politics, Biden set up a trap and Trump fell into it, and I think we can all agree that something has to be done to address the problems the Republicans themselves have created regarding citizenship and immigration, these are problems that Republicans want to keep going because they both want something to attack the Democrats on, and brown people by proxy, and something that attracts the type of voters Republicans want, the white and Christian Nationalists. Biden was willing to see what they would compromise on, meanwhile Trump doesn’t care about any of it and wanted a win for himself.
So maybe try not to be so naive that you’re understanding of politics is black and white, compromise happens in that gray area that you seem to be deliberately ignoring in favor of unwarranted criticism.
Well I think that comment is 100% spot on, for one