• lad
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      410 months ago

      I don’t see how the opposite is not correct: god gave us the means to do evil, that we couldn’t do without him. But it is the free will of evil people that turns the ability into reality

        • FuglyDuck
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          10 months ago

          The first factor, which comes from god, is always positive

          I’m sure the babies is Sodom and Gamorah really had it coming.
          I’m sure the babies of the Cannanites when Moses and the Israelites were told to genocide them really had it coming.
          I’m sure all the babies that died in Noah’s Flood really, really had it coming.

        • @GeneralVincent
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          310 months ago

          You’re not going to convince anyone on an Atheist thread, because we’ve heard the dogma before and have used logic and reason to come to our own conclusion instead of blindly having faith. Ironic that you’re encouraging blind faith while trying to sprinkle logic into your argument.

          Both people you mentioned are humans. According to the bible, they are both evil because all humans are born into sin.

          You also cannot say all good things are from God for so so many reasons. But the most obvious one is that you don’t know god, and you don’t know their intentions. What we DO know is that either evil came into existence without God, and God isn’t powerful enough to stop it. Or god allowed it to exist. Or god created it themselves. So which one is it? Also, god has free will so why is their free will good but ours is evil?

    • Glitchington
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      310 months ago

      Are you by any chance familiar with Stockholm Syndrome?

        • Glitchington
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          310 months ago

          You’re on an atheist board, preaching…

          Stockholm syndrome describes the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or abuser and their goals.

          I hate the greedy, destructive society we’re in, but I also see how people have leveraged faith as a platform to make things the way they are.

            • Glitchington
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              110 months ago

              Nice strawman.

              No I reject the imperialism, but am powerless against it alone. Human rights are important, and the concept of every vote counting? Seems solid, too bad popular vote lost in the U.S. election a lot lately

              Dictators are awful, and they lied about their parties intentions. Do you not realize… they were lying fascist dictators?

              Are your legs tired? You’ve been jumping to a lot of conclusions.