Hot take: as a true natural morning person, society is hostile to us too. I wake up early without wanting to and have a productive window from about 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. That means that by the time I get to work, I’ve pretty much used up my energy for the day and am starting to feel tired, and it’s a long slide down to exhaustion by late afternoon. The most productive I’ve ever been was a period where I was able to go to my job at 6:30 a.m. and had a few hours to work uninterrupted and then mostly coast the rest of the day before leaving around 3:00-3:30 p.m.
My girlfriend is a night owl, and sure, she struggles to get going through the morning, but by the end of the day, she typically has a surge of energy and is able to get some work done and then enjoy the evening, while I turn into a full zombie. Beyond work, try getting a group of your friends to hang out at 8:00 a.m. Pretty much all social events take place in the evening and night, when us morning people are fighting off sleep and struggling to stay invested.
Sorry for the rant, but the assumption that society is built around morning people has bothered me for a while. It’s really intended for “day people.” What we really need is truly flexible working hours that can be adapted for everyone’s natural schedule.
Thanks for your rant. As a night owl I’ve only ever thought of things from my own perspective. It’s really nice to learn from the other side, even if I’d never agree to an 8 AM hangout
The best jobs I’ve had are ones with flexible schedules where morning people can start at 6 or 7 and leave in the early afternoon, while night owls can start around 11 or so and work a bit later. Everyone seems so much happier and gets along better because of it.
I know not every job can be organized that way. But it really bugs me when I’m working a job and it literally doesn’t matter when the work gets done, but the schedule is still extremely rigid.
its nice. only downside is catching some people with schedules that are absolutely out of the way, your 11 example would be seen as extreme. but thats a minor inconvenience
i guess the best of both worlds is a mix. a short timerange where everyone needs to be available most of the time and the rest freely chosen.
9-11 is reasonable to demand of everybody, fuck them 11 starters ;-) they take one for the team
Are you a morning person because you’ve just always had that routine?
I’m not a morning person, but pretty sure it’s because society is designed to keep me awake until late at night and I’ve just fallen into that cycle. But I’m curious how other people resist it.
Delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD), more often known as delayed sleep phase syndrome and also as delayed sleep–wake phase disorder, is the delaying of a person’s circadian rhythm (biological clock) compared to those of societal norms.
I once got my small group of former uni mates to get together at 07:00 to catch up before work. It was a magical feeling that I was even able to ask, and we could do it without much issue.
We ended up chatting with two Irish dudes who were just coming off an all-nighter, celebrating some business deal.
Hot take: as a true natural morning person, society is hostile to us too. I wake up early without wanting to and have a productive window from about 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. That means that by the time I get to work, I’ve pretty much used up my energy for the day and am starting to feel tired, and it’s a long slide down to exhaustion by late afternoon. The most productive I’ve ever been was a period where I was able to go to my job at 6:30 a.m. and had a few hours to work uninterrupted and then mostly coast the rest of the day before leaving around 3:00-3:30 p.m.
My girlfriend is a night owl, and sure, she struggles to get going through the morning, but by the end of the day, she typically has a surge of energy and is able to get some work done and then enjoy the evening, while I turn into a full zombie. Beyond work, try getting a group of your friends to hang out at 8:00 a.m. Pretty much all social events take place in the evening and night, when us morning people are fighting off sleep and struggling to stay invested.
Sorry for the rant, but the assumption that society is built around morning people has bothered me for a while. It’s really intended for “day people.” What we really need is truly flexible working hours that can be adapted for everyone’s natural schedule.
Thanks for your rant. As a night owl I’ve only ever thought of things from my own perspective. It’s really nice to learn from the other side, even if I’d never agree to an 8 AM hangout
I’m a morning guy. My buddy is a night guy. We often have 8AM hangs after he’s done work if I’m not working. We can bridge the worlds!
The best jobs I’ve had are ones with flexible schedules where morning people can start at 6 or 7 and leave in the early afternoon, while night owls can start around 11 or so and work a bit later. Everyone seems so much happier and gets along better because of it.
I know not every job can be organized that way. But it really bugs me when I’m working a job and it literally doesn’t matter when the work gets done, but the schedule is still extremely rigid.
its nice. only downside is catching some people with schedules that are absolutely out of the way, your 11 example would be seen as extreme. but thats a minor inconvenience
i guess the best of both worlds is a mix. a short timerange where everyone needs to be available most of the time and the rest freely chosen. 9-11 is reasonable to demand of everybody, fuck them 11 starters ;-) they take one for the team
Are you a morning person because you’ve just always had that routine? I’m not a morning person, but pretty sure it’s because society is designed to keep me awake until late at night and I’ve just fallen into that cycle. But I’m curious how other people resist it.
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Delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD), more often known as delayed sleep phase syndrome and also as delayed sleep–wake phase disorder, is the delaying of a person’s circadian rhythm (biological clock) compared to those of societal norms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_disorder
I once got my small group of former uni mates to get together at 07:00 to catch up before work. It was a magical feeling that I was even able to ask, and we could do it without much issue.
We ended up chatting with two Irish dudes who were just coming off an all-nighter, celebrating some business deal.
I love early morning catch-ups