• @pjwestin
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    1010 months ago

    Yeah, I’m not saying there’s been enough change, just that there has been some change, and it was brought on by people threatening to withhold their vote.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      10 months ago

      it was brought on by people threatening to withhold their vote.

      Its definitely been a wake-up call to the party. Watching Biden shed 20% of Democratic voter turnout in a fucking primary is something. Obama and Clinton never had these kinds of problems in '12 and '96. And guys that did - Carter getting burned by Ted Kennedy in '80 and Bush to Buchanan in '92 - should have been a warning to the party as a whole.

      • @pjwestin
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        210 months ago

        Yeah, I’ll be honest, I’m very worried about this election. I’m still unhappy with Biden’s approach to Israel, but at least now they can credibly argue that voting for him would be harm reduction for Palestinians. Maybe that will be enough to drive turnout.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          210 months ago

          at least now they can credibly argue that voting for him would be harm reduction

          Right until the polls close in November, at which point its back to business as usual.

          • @pjwestin
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            410 months ago

            Well…yeah, probably.