Context: I sometimes hear the argument that god explicitly told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit, the same way a parent tells its child not to stick things or touch electrical outlets. So god forcing the two of them to have children and dooming every human ever since is perfectly justified.

  • @dustyData
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    The free will paradox. God already knows what you’ll do but wants to pretend that you have a choice about what to do.

    • @[email protected]
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      2410 months ago

      Why did Jesus have to take the blame for “our sins” when it was the father who caused it?

      • @gibmiser
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        God is gaslighting us

        • @[email protected]
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          410 months ago

          God put the snake there, the same way my friend’s dad put the porn stash in the top cupboard and told us not to play around there.

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            That’s the funny thing. Christian tradition coopted a story to talk about an omnipotent god. But the story was originally envisioned in a context of polytheism. Originally the snake, devil, whatever, could’ve been any of the other supernatural entities of tribal superstition. And god wasn’t omnipotent, only a creator of these people’s, but no more powerful than Greek or Roman gods were.

    • @radicalautonomy
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      There have been people who have been born, lived, and died as atheists. God creates these people despite knowing full well that they will never accept Jeebus as their lord and personal pan pizza and will, therefore, be destined for eternal torture in the afterlife.

      Such an entity deserves no praise, only all-encompassing righteous indignation.

    • Leraje
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      Exactly, I mean is he stupid? Is he not aware what omniscient or omnipotent mean? Because if he does he’s wasting everyone’s time and if he doesn’t then that’s another paradox right there.

      • NaibofTabr
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        410 months ago

        Look, if you play SimCity, is that a waste of your time? And do you care if you’re wasting the time of the Sim citizens?

          • NaibofTabr
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            110 months ago

            Heh, well, we are from our own point of view mostly because we define ourselves to be. Scientifically, there is no firm judgement on this and no clear definition of what “conscious” even means.

            It’s entirely possible that we perceive ourselves to be “conscious” because we were programmed to do so as part of the simulation.

    • IninewCrow
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      510 months ago

      Why create someone or allow the creation of someone if you already know they are going to be a violent axe murderer that will kill a dozen people with his bare hands, be non-repentant and end up getting thrown into everlasting hell?

      God is either an idiot that doesn’t know what they are doing.

      Or they are psychopathic and just allow these things to happen because they like watching us perform for them.

      Or even worse, they purposefully create these individuals knowing what they will do and what will result but don’t care.

      • @WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
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        Why would an Axe murderer kill people with their bare hands? Wouldn’t they use an Axe instead?

      • NaibofTabr
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        110 months ago

        Or they’re running a long-term simulation and they don’t really care all that much about the actions of particular individuals.

    • @fidodo
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      210 months ago

      Oh tell me you’ve never done that in the sims.