• @kava
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    210 months ago

    This is one of the reasons I am hesitant to get any “digital car”. I’ve read that government has backdoors to turn off engine or otherwise control cars.

    • @blazeknave
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      410 months ago

      The real threat is foreign bad actors. There’s a global database that maps all VINs.

      How many Americans have connected cars? How many are in garages? How many will not smell the exhaust before it kills them when every car in the country is started one night?

      That’s WMD

      Source: I used to meet with the CISOs of all the global auto manufacturers annually. If you’re a light sleeper, don’t work in infosec.

      • @kava
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        110 months ago

        interesting idea for what really amounts to a terrorist attack. any others? i figure you may have some other cool ones

        personally, i’m more scared of our government in most cases. of course, foreign bad actors can and will do damage but over the long term the government, should it morph into something a bit more authoritarian than it is today, would have much more incentive and capability to do harmful things

        i remember there was some leak nearly a decade ago already that showed NSA can access all smart TVs. some TVs even have microphones so that they can listen to what’s going on in your living room. Makes you wonder if Orwell was a time traveler

        • @blazeknave
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          110 months ago

          I was a pretty big punk rock anarchist conspiracy theorist from my preteens through my early 20s. Now I work in the field. IMHO the US’ version (not the GOP’s) of world order, is the least scary. And with these psychos threatening murder and shit, the SOTU rebuttal about knee deep in blood… I’ve come to accept whatever dumb shit I or anyone I know is doing online, the govt doesn’t give a shit. But as a FOSS nerd and EFF-donating privacy advocate, I feel you. My real fear is bad actors leveraging and extorting people.

          As far as other examples… Just imagine every single thing you know is connected, is under attack 100% of every day in every direction. Way before the current tension, the US has been in cyber warfare with Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, etc. Right now they’re all trying to steal each other’s classified data. Some off the books guys might be actively trying to meltdown a nuclear plant. The world is your oyster. Whatever you can imagine, it’s happening. That’s why those Industry meetups I attended exist. Lookup ISAC. Automotive, finance, healthcare, manufacturing… Every vertical has an org where the security leadership exchanges best practices in spite of corporate competition, “bc the bad guys are sharing tips, so why shouldn’t we?”

          I think you’re talking about PRISM? Iirc they had a pipe directly from the Bell/At&t Telco building at the Brooklyn bridge but that could have been hearsay. But I’d argue he was just a historian, not a futurist. It’s always been the same. Just different tools.

    • @Fedizen
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      110 months ago

      cant wait for children to break into that technology for giggles